Message from @rail5

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2018-04-12 22:23:59 UTC  

i can never remember how to spell his name lol

2018-04-12 22:24:16 UTC  

did you meet him though

2018-04-12 22:24:30 UTC  

not in person but i was a party to many a phone conference

2018-04-12 22:25:01 UTC  

basically the idea was bc i have somewhat experience in media we were going to take advantage of the bernie craze to promote marxist ideas

2018-04-12 22:25:08 UTC  

but the longer i stayed on these conferences

2018-04-12 22:25:09 UTC  

@Deleted User How do we actually know that he leads CPUSA?

2018-04-12 22:25:13 UTC  

the more i realized it was hopeless with these dudes

2018-04-12 22:25:34 UTC  

@rail5 HAH, I saw that you guys have giant phone conferences.

2018-04-12 22:25:40 UTC  

That must be a giant fucking mess.

2018-04-12 22:26:01 UTC  

Also fucking MEMBERSHIP TAXES.

2018-04-12 22:26:08 UTC  

well i mean

2018-04-12 22:26:20 UTC  

idk of a political organization of that size which doesnt ask for dues

2018-04-12 22:26:26 UTC  

and exceptions can be made for those without the money

2018-04-12 22:26:33 UTC  

but im no longer a member because well

2018-04-12 22:26:36 UTC  

they dont know what theyre doing

2018-04-12 22:26:49 UTC  

Yhea, I was in one that was the size of a few hundred members.

2018-04-12 22:27:01 UTC  

We didn't have dues.

2018-04-12 22:27:24 UTC  

@rail5 I looked on their and they are more like progressives than that of communists.

2018-04-12 22:27:38 UTC  

they just

2018-04-12 22:27:43 UTC  

dont really understand marxism

2018-04-12 22:27:50 UTC  

i get the feeling they skimmed through volume 1 of capital

2018-04-12 22:27:58 UTC  

and just left it on the shelf after that

2018-04-12 22:29:13 UTC  

one of my major complaints when we were hashing out a plan was that they had no understanding of a target audience for these video productions we were gonna make

2018-04-12 22:29:24 UTC  

i mean the plan was to take advantage of the hype over bernie

2018-04-12 22:29:30 UTC  

and they wanted these videos to be 30+ minutes long

2018-04-12 22:29:39 UTC  

bernie bros are NOT gonna watch an hour long video on marxism

2018-04-12 22:29:54 UTC  

You guys wanted bernie?

2018-04-12 22:30:01 UTC  

He was hardly even a socdem.

2018-04-12 22:30:38 UTC  

no we didnt want bernie lol

2018-04-12 22:30:52 UTC  

we wanted to take advantage of the fact that he called himself a socialist to educate his supporters on socialism

2018-04-12 22:31:23 UTC  

What the fuck?

2018-04-12 22:31:54 UTC  

That would be a bad idea, they didn't want socialism, they wanted bernie.

2018-04-12 22:32:27 UTC  

I hope you realize that elections are now based off of personality rather than ideology.

2018-04-12 22:33:17 UTC  

no need to talk down to me, i know that very well
the point of the project was that a certain percentage of his supporters were likely to be radicalized now that the term had be de-demonized

2018-04-12 22:33:35 UTC  

nobody expected 100% of bernie supporters to join the CPUSA

2018-04-12 22:34:10 UTC  

But yet you expected bernie bro's to look at communism?

2018-04-12 22:35:14 UTC  

i'm not sure what you mean by "look at communism"
what we expected was to make short videos explaining the contradictions of capitalism and the incompatibility between democracy and capitalism, and target them towards people who were already inclined to call themselves "Democratic socialists"

2018-04-12 22:35:38 UTC  

during election season especially this could have been very successful had the party known how to organize

2018-04-12 22:36:28 UTC  

What? You really thought that democratic socialists would believe that democracy is incompatable with capitalism?

2018-04-12 22:37:19 UTC  

Not even the democratic socialists in civil war era china believed that.

2018-04-12 22:37:22 UTC  

They are not dem-socs