Message from @Kay

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2018-04-24 03:58:45 UTC  

And only for profit.

2018-04-24 03:58:50 UTC  

Um what?

2018-04-24 03:59:07 UTC  

What kind of explanation was that?

2018-04-24 03:59:16 UTC  

And creating things and selling them for money’s a bad thing because...?

2018-04-24 03:59:57 UTC  

Well the person who has more private propriety has more freedom then you.

2018-04-24 04:00:07 UTC  

Isn’t that something we’ve been doing since money was invented?

2018-04-24 04:00:14 UTC  

@K▲ISER Nothing inherently bad with that idea, even if it is privately owned.

2018-04-24 04:00:28 UTC  

So basically,

2018-04-24 04:00:36 UTC  

You are limited to some choices as well.

2018-04-24 04:00:55 UTC  

@Zero Two is back What kind of choices for what?

2018-04-24 04:01:17 UTC  

Cell phone companies,

2018-04-24 04:01:41 UTC  

What?

2018-04-24 04:01:45 UTC  

And other items consumer would like to have served and to buy.

2018-04-24 04:02:05 UTC  

Also, isn’t a desire for materialistic things such as money something everyone inherently has, and some satiate that need by selling products to consumers for profit?

2018-04-24 04:03:19 UTC  

In regards to your telephone company, there are always alternatives that you can choose, granted their coverage and service is likely to be subpar, but in regards to electronics, if you don't want to have a limited range of choices you can just assemble your own.

2018-04-24 04:03:57 UTC  

On top of that, public phones and phone booths are a thing as well.

2018-04-24 04:05:48 UTC  

In the words of Ivan drago

2018-04-24 04:05:54 UTC  

If he dies, he dies

2018-04-24 04:06:01 UTC  

@Kay Is that bush sr sr or bush jr?

2018-04-24 04:06:05 UTC  

Sr

2018-04-24 04:06:06 UTC  

@Deleted User But it should be democratic control.

2018-04-24 04:06:13 UTC  

For workers and such.

2018-04-24 04:06:16 UTC  

@Zero Two is back Why should it?

2018-04-24 04:06:25 UTC  

Because people can get exploited.

2018-04-24 04:06:27 UTC  

And what is "democratic" controk?

2018-04-24 04:06:39 UTC  

The worker control how it's done.

2018-04-24 04:06:47 UTC  

And controls the means of production.

2018-04-24 04:06:50 UTC  

And the government absolutely can’t exploit anyone in any way at all?

2018-04-24 04:07:02 UTC  

I don't mean the government.

2018-04-24 04:07:09 UTC  

How would you know exploitation woulden't happen? Especially in one of the biggest systems in which explotation is a constant issue, that being drmocracy.

2018-04-24 04:07:17 UTC  

I mean the big businesses.

2018-04-24 04:08:08 UTC  

Big business isn’t the only exploiter of workers out there.

2018-04-24 04:08:25 UTC  

And no, the worker does not control how it is done, if what is done, is controlled by mob rule, which ironically isn't democracy at all.

2018-04-24 04:08:53 UTC  

But that is how it is in the united states?

2018-04-24 04:09:04 UTC  

That is how they vote for the president?

2018-04-24 04:09:04 UTC  

It's an Ochlocracy.

2018-04-24 04:09:18 UTC  

@Zero Two is back They use representative eldctions.

2018-04-24 04:09:49 UTC  

What about the saying of "We the people"?

2018-04-24 04:10:08 UTC  

We the incorporated LLC

2018-04-24 04:10:10 UTC  

The US is a Democratic Republic.