Message from @Deleted User

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2018-04-24 04:16:33 UTC  

How would you know?

2018-04-24 04:16:35 UTC  

Was there actually an real communist state?

2018-04-24 04:16:41 UTC  

In any country?

2018-04-24 04:17:12 UTC  

They all claimed to be socialist states, which were progressing towards communism.

2018-04-24 04:17:27 UTC  

But they couldn't be Communist states.

2018-04-24 04:17:34 UTC  

Because they weren't that advance yet.

2018-04-24 04:18:26 UTC  

Well why coulden't they just up and at em abolish the state and everything that comes with it?

2018-04-24 04:18:44 UTC  

Well there is some problems with that.

2018-04-24 04:18:54 UTC  

You can't get rid of the government so fast.

2018-04-24 04:19:17 UTC  

Well what makes you think you can get rid of government at all?

2018-04-24 04:19:52 UTC  

Because the government is corrupt, I believe that you can share the wealth with other people.

2018-04-24 04:20:45 UTC  

Well if the government is corrupt then why use government at all to futher your goals?

2018-04-24 04:21:46 UTC  

You need to actually do it in case any other country is willing to attack me in the state it is in.

2018-04-24 04:21:59 UTC  

Do what?

2018-04-24 04:22:20 UTC  

Have a stable government.

2018-04-24 04:22:39 UTC  

But didn't you state that government is corrupt?

2018-04-24 04:22:49 UTC  

Yes.

2018-04-24 04:22:51 UTC  

How hypocritical.

2018-04-24 04:23:01 UTC  

But you can't get rid of the government too quickly.

2018-04-24 04:23:13 UTC  

That's what people misunderstand about communism.

2018-04-24 04:23:20 UTC  

And why is that?

2018-04-24 04:23:20 UTC  

That is why they need socialism as well.

2018-04-24 04:23:47 UTC  

The end goal is to get rid of class.

2018-04-24 04:24:18 UTC  

Class and heirarchy will always be present no matter what.

2018-04-24 04:24:40 UTC  

For as of right now they will be.

2018-04-24 04:24:49 UTC  

As I said before,

2018-04-24 04:24:54 UTC  

No, they will ALWAYS, be present.

2018-04-24 04:25:01 UTC  

We are not advance yet to get rid of class.

2018-04-24 04:25:50 UTC  

That is why Socialist countries that are leaning towards communism

2018-04-24 04:25:55 UTC  

The thing is that class and hierarchy are natural in any human group, be it a neolithic tribal, or a massive country that we see today.

2018-04-24 04:25:58 UTC  

Can't be communist yet.

2018-04-24 04:26:15 UTC  

There is no socialism left in the world.

2018-04-24 04:26:16 UTC  

Because we need more advance machines and such.

2018-04-24 04:26:53 UTC  

Machines will get your cause nowhere, it will just leave you guys weaker and less productive.

2018-04-24 04:27:37 UTC  

Well the machines need humans but it would do a better job at production means.

2018-04-24 04:28:43 UTC  

Read what I said above, they are of no benefit to you.

2018-04-24 04:29:14 UTC  

Also I believe it would take less time,

2018-04-24 04:30:10 UTC  

And would go much faster.

2018-04-24 04:31:27 UTC  

As I said above, when all they do is make you guys weak, unproductive, and uncaring for your movement, it will absolutely destroy any potential it once had.

2018-04-24 04:32:02 UTC  

People will not just say one day "Oh boy there's these machines everywhere, let's go communist".

2018-04-24 04:34:13 UTC  

If anything it will just strengthen the already impossible to break death grip that capitalism has on communism.