Message from @Fergus Bahr

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2018-04-30 19:53:12 UTC  

On black market newer guns usually cost a fuckton more than their market price because it takes too much effort to actually get them.

2018-04-30 19:53:13 UTC  

I need a full image of this auuuugh

2018-04-30 19:53:19 UTC  

Crop is so bad <:GWnanamiKonataCry:405043507544457226>

2018-04-30 19:53:27 UTC  

Hi chat

2018-04-30 19:53:40 UTC  

Yeah but here's a thing though, militias are a small group.

2018-04-30 19:53:55 UTC  

Civilians are a way bigger group.

2018-04-30 19:54:16 UTC  

And if 60% of people will rise up, they could simply overthrow the goverment.

2018-04-30 19:54:27 UTC  

Also army is not 100% certain to stay within goverment's reach in that case.

2018-04-30 19:55:36 UTC  

Well I mean yeah.

2018-04-30 19:55:51 UTC  

But civilians will never get any ground to air complexes or anything like that.

2018-04-30 19:57:17 UTC  

Stealing from military bases in first world is almost impossible since penalty for it is life in prison or excution and they're guarded to shit.

2018-04-30 19:57:44 UTC  

What I'm getting at is that civilians having more or less modern firearms isn't meant to be practical, it's meant to be a constant reminder to the state not to fuck with people to much or there will be blood.

2018-04-30 19:57:50 UTC  

And state is not usually willing to take the chance.

2018-04-30 20:00:01 UTC  

? ? ?

2018-04-30 20:00:32 UTC  

Are there dictators in US

2018-04-30 20:01:59 UTC  

I wouldn't say it's the main reason, I'd say main reason is to fight against overwhelming opression in case if such arrives.

2018-04-30 20:02:11 UTC  

The point of the Second Amendment is to refill the Freedom Meter™️ if our gov’t gets overthrown, it’s a failsafe for the current gov’t.

2018-04-30 20:02:14 UTC  

I think they were going off "If brits come back people should have guns to kill them" when they wrote that.

2018-04-30 20:02:54 UTC  

Without weapons a populus is unable to fight against their government.

2018-04-30 20:03:06 UTC  

At this point of time even with it's not.

2018-04-30 20:03:32 UTC  

At least not in countries with solid armed forces.

2018-04-30 20:04:11 UTC  

Well military has access to fun things like WOMD's and chemical warfare.

2018-04-30 20:04:48 UTC  

True, but you don't need to kill them all around America

2018-04-30 20:04:53 UTC  

You need to push them out of cities and secure roads

2018-04-30 20:05:04 UTC  

Psst

2018-04-30 20:05:04 UTC  

Sure there will be levels of insurgency in the forrests but who cares.

2018-04-30 20:05:09 UTC  

Psssssst

2018-04-30 20:05:16 UTC  

Mr e

2018-04-30 20:05:39 UTC  

Out of cities?

2018-04-30 20:05:41 UTC  

Bomb them

2018-04-30 20:05:51 UTC  

Hmmmm

2018-04-30 20:05:54 UTC  

Ever heard about second siege of Grozny?

2018-04-30 20:05:55 UTC  

Mr eeeee

2018-04-30 20:06:06 UTC  

Oof Grozny

2018-04-30 20:07:18 UTC  

The US military has proven itself so far to be quite incompetent at suppressing guerrilla campaigns, example A being Vietnam. And with areas that are rather similar in climate to Vietnam being inside the country, like the Deep South, the US army would have a hell of a time trying to fight there.

2018-04-30 20:07:37 UTC  

@K▲ISER Vietnam had a good army though

2018-04-30 20:07:47 UTC  

You gotta take in account that Vietnamese found a bunch of wars beforehand

2018-04-30 20:07:59 UTC  

And they already had a lot of systems like tunnels ready before US arrival.

2018-04-30 20:08:05 UTC  

And ultimately vietnamese still lost in numbers.

2018-04-30 20:08:40 UTC  

I would say it's more about pushing guerilla troops out of main points and securing them

2018-04-30 20:08:56 UTC  

They can take everything else, it doesn't matter, what are they going to do with forrests or mountain areas.