own*

Which would inevitably be abused.

not really

Working for the government isnt something people should do.

well yes, i mean thats another issue

Lenin didnt abuse that

Castro didnt

And yes really. It has happened many times.

Yes they did.

Ho Chi Min didnt

He did.

but thats not a critique of the economic system though... all systems are vulnerable to abuse from the officials / planners, etc

thats true

Ho chi min was smart but he wasnt a smart politician.

@Larry Skywalker true but my main critique is the ability to abused.

what i want to say is, in a capitalist system more than half of the profit you produce gets sucked off by your boss

Communism can be abused much easier.

in a communist system you would get full profit for your work

But this time your profit goes to people who dont earn it. Or goes to people who the state says earns it.

no, it doesnt

it goes for you

You make it sound attractive.

its your work, so you get the profit

Its not your work. The state own your production.

You're merely pawns of government in that situation.

By work and law.

Meaning you give them much more control.

no, the state owns the means of profuction

Control not necessary for them.

you own the outcome

wait, in communism there is no state, and even in socialism like USSR, the "state" is not like "the government" in the US

and then ypu pay taxes that the goverment use for manteniace of those means of production

No they do if they own all the production and property.

its not making a real profit, like US government, its redistributing any "profit" to the citizens

If you want to talk and ancom Im not talking about it today. Maybe tomorrow. Im too tired for ancom.

its redistributing some. Not any

ancom?

i'm an ML btw

you right Larry, but when i say state or goverment i mean the local comune or something like that

yes, right Sir iago

Lol so many blocked messages