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Howdy folks

Haven't been on discord in a while

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@quiscalus

Yo what's up

I have been thinking about leftism in the modern day, do you think the levels of technology and military power helps sure up the power of the state where revolution like in the 19th century might not even be possible?

hmm

@quiscalus leftists have extremely low odds of doing a revolution, i mean for the most part they're anti guns, they're vegans, and they only resort to using flag poles and knives to fight

@quiscalus but if ur talking about if goverment has enough power to stop a revolution, well yes i'd say so. but if there's enough anger in citizens, and enough soldiers to take on a army, then they might achieve a coup d etat

Not only leftism but non electoral political dissent where individuals try and manifest political power

I imagined States like China or even relative democracies like the US are technologically advanced enough to stop diminish revolutionary action along with having a clear technological advantage when it comes to actual combat

In 1848 or 1917 the technology of the state militarily was very similar to the revolutionaries be it horses, rifles, cannons, etc. Now States have clear air superiority, mobile armor, along with huge informational advantages like drones and the like.

Read 4th generational warfare and war of the flea tbh

Both these go into this

You cant just fight the government in open combat anymore, one would have to resort to guerilla tactics and the like.

Has that actually won a nation before? This been a long-standing gorilla campaigns like the naxalites or farc but is that actually ever going to be a proletarian Revolution that seizes the state?

I feel it has the ability to sap the will of a imperial invader and eventually cause their withdrawal but within a revolution/civil war will that work?

I'm a person that Advocates the proletariat be armed and trained. I also go shooting with other leftists but I feel anything that might happen is so far off and the odds are so not in our favor it seems a bit silly talking about it at times.

@♡♡♡ probably a smart idea would be to just encircle a building in which the opposition's generals and leaders reside in, and take them all out, and next day when there's noone to lead the country, your party should say that you're the best fit for a leader

@quiscalus are you pro or anti democracy?

I believe in democracy personally but I think it should be done by workers alone without the influence of capitalists or capitalism

me personally, i'd remove any form of democracy from my country, to focus people on rebuilding their country and improving it, rather than make them fight one another. its smarter to focus people on a common goal

sounds good?

I guess how do you have a state that is controlled by the proletariat while being able to preserve civil liberties along with defending itself from hostile States and forces?

hmm

As much as many people would consider me a Tankie apologist I think that the Bolsheviks monopolizing control of state power post overthrow of the provisional government really led to the state being representative of the Bolsheviks interest as compared to all the workers

mhm

but you should consider one thing

those bolsheviks

they aren't russian at all

in fact they hated russians

to the bone

My big issue with the revolution of 1917 is that instead of workers having control of production and the state you have bureaucrats replacing the bosses

i see

I feel the main issue that I care about is the material conditions of individuals in Society And how capitalism is the engine engine of political and economic inequality. When you smash the class divisions you create a more democratic and Equitable Society in my perspective.