Message from @Yu and Mika

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2018-07-18 03:31:57 UTC  

Animals are just animals.

2018-07-18 03:32:09 UTC  

And we are animals as well.

2018-07-18 03:32:20 UTC  

You know quite well what I mean.

2018-07-18 03:32:26 UTC  

Is this person a slave? You see, you're weaseling now

2018-07-18 03:32:26 UTC  

No I don't.

2018-07-18 03:32:37 UTC  

I said it before and I’ll say it again:

2018-07-18 03:32:40 UTC  

We're animals with a society and a very social language

2018-07-18 03:32:56 UTC  

You gave a definition of a slave, I gave you a counterexample, and now you're weaseling. Most slaves, bullshit

2018-07-18 03:33:13 UTC  

@BabygottBach No its a prisoner.

2018-07-18 03:33:16 UTC  

You gave a definition of all slaves, it needs but one counterexample to render it false

2018-07-18 03:33:29 UTC  

Slavery applies to things that have sapience/sentience. A tree isn’t a slave because it gets chopped down. An animal isn’t a slave because it’s made into food. It’s resources and livestock.

2018-07-18 03:33:34 UTC  

You can't force a prisoner to do anything.

2018-07-18 03:33:42 UTC  

You can only restrict their movement

2018-07-18 03:33:50 UTC  

Exactly

2018-07-18 03:33:56 UTC  

But that's not the case here

2018-07-18 03:33:57 UTC  

and putting someone in a cage is doing that

2018-07-18 03:34:08 UTC  

The master can do anything he wants to the person

2018-07-18 03:34:16 UTC  

slaves were never put in cages.

2018-07-18 03:34:20 UTC  

?

2018-07-18 03:34:30 UTC  

then why did you say so?

2018-07-18 03:34:34 UTC  

But I still consider it that, even though some other advance race could do the same @Amoviet

2018-07-18 03:34:35 UTC  

How do you think they transported slaves?

2018-07-18 03:34:44 UTC  

Slaves were put in cages.

2018-07-18 03:34:56 UTC  

Merely being in a cage doesn't make you not a slave

2018-07-18 03:35:01 UTC  

"slaves were never put in cages."
"Slaves were put in cages."

2018-07-18 03:35:09 UTC  

I never said they were

2018-07-18 03:35:16 UTC  

that period should have been question mark

2018-07-18 03:35:27 UTC  

Were slaves put in cages?

2018-07-18 03:35:34 UTC  

Yes

2018-07-18 03:35:56 UTC  

So being caged has no bearing on slavehood

2018-07-18 03:36:03 UTC  

if you're under the control of someone and your only option is to work for them or die, that is slavery

2018-07-18 03:36:06 UTC  

its as simple as that

2018-07-18 03:36:19 UTC  

It doesnt no, nor did I say it does

2018-07-18 03:36:20 UTC  

@BabygottBach You are applying the same moral complexity of locking up a person for manual labor and treating them like an animal to locking up an animal and treating it like an animal. (By animal I mean something non-sentient/sapient, like a Buffalo.)

2018-07-18 03:36:38 UTC  

No i"m not

2018-07-18 03:36:48 UTC  

You are,

2018-07-18 03:36:52 UTC  

Sure seems like it, considering the comparison you made.

2018-07-18 03:36:52 UTC  

we're haing two separate discussions here

2018-07-18 03:36:53 UTC  

Animals are sentient

2018-07-18 03:36:59 UTC  

Your Counterargument is faulty.

2018-07-18 03:37:04 UTC  

I'm way past animals now