Message from @Yu and Mika

Discord ID: 468983362279702529


2018-07-18 03:30:04 UTC  

But they still are.

2018-07-18 03:30:13 UTC  

Not under E's definition

2018-07-18 03:30:22 UTC  

Also, the term for animals being made to do labor/make food is livestock. Not slaves.

2018-07-18 03:30:24 UTC  

@BabygottBach They're not forced to do anything or under your control, they're only prisoners

2018-07-18 03:30:36 UTC  

@Amoviet To me they are slaves.

2018-07-18 03:30:38 UTC  

Under my definition you're under the control of another human

2018-07-18 03:30:42 UTC  

You can force them to do anything

2018-07-18 03:30:55 UTC  

you merely choose not to, as the master, to force them to work

2018-07-18 03:30:56 UTC  

and if you work to survive and have a boss you're a slave.

2018-07-18 03:31:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/468983030707519490/D12603_2.gif

2018-07-18 03:31:15 UTC  

So this person doesn't need to work to survive

2018-07-18 03:31:29 UTC  

And I'd rather be a slave than just working to survive with no direction

2018-07-18 03:31:30 UTC  

but is under the complete control of her master.

2018-07-18 03:31:34 UTC  

The term slavery implies that it’s something with the mental capacity of a person (Sentience and sapience)

2018-07-18 03:31:44 UTC  

Is this person a slave?

2018-07-18 03:31:45 UTC  

Most slaves had to work or they'd die

2018-07-18 03:31:57 UTC  

Animals are just animals.

2018-07-18 03:32:09 UTC  

And we are animals as well.

2018-07-18 03:32:20 UTC  

You know quite well what I mean.

2018-07-18 03:32:26 UTC  

Is this person a slave? You see, you're weaseling now

2018-07-18 03:32:26 UTC  

No I don't.

2018-07-18 03:32:37 UTC  

I said it before and I’ll say it again:

2018-07-18 03:32:40 UTC  

We're animals with a society and a very social language

2018-07-18 03:32:56 UTC  

You gave a definition of a slave, I gave you a counterexample, and now you're weaseling. Most slaves, bullshit

2018-07-18 03:33:13 UTC  

@BabygottBach No its a prisoner.

2018-07-18 03:33:16 UTC  

You gave a definition of all slaves, it needs but one counterexample to render it false

2018-07-18 03:33:29 UTC  

Slavery applies to things that have sapience/sentience. A tree isn’t a slave because it gets chopped down. An animal isn’t a slave because it’s made into food. It’s resources and livestock.

2018-07-18 03:33:34 UTC  

You can't force a prisoner to do anything.

2018-07-18 03:33:42 UTC  

You can only restrict their movement

2018-07-18 03:33:50 UTC  

Exactly

2018-07-18 03:33:56 UTC  

But that's not the case here

2018-07-18 03:33:57 UTC  

and putting someone in a cage is doing that

2018-07-18 03:34:08 UTC  

The master can do anything he wants to the person

2018-07-18 03:34:16 UTC  

slaves were never put in cages.

2018-07-18 03:34:20 UTC  

?

2018-07-18 03:34:30 UTC  

then why did you say so?

2018-07-18 03:34:34 UTC  

But I still consider it that, even though some other advance race could do the same @Amoviet

2018-07-18 03:34:35 UTC  

How do you think they transported slaves?

2018-07-18 03:34:44 UTC  

Slaves were put in cages.

2018-07-18 03:34:56 UTC  

Merely being in a cage doesn't make you not a slave

2018-07-18 03:35:01 UTC  

"slaves were never put in cages."
"Slaves were put in cages."