Im all for redemption but you can't possibly redeem some horrible acts. You can make life better but you can't undo certain bad actions like this. If all I have to do is repent then heaven isnt worth it for me.

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if you don't believe in god you dont need redemption in anything

you have to repent and mean it though

Of course people need redemption, with or without a god. Not in the religious sense though.

@BigBadRed9000 Yeah and I can easily trick people and say I repent when I actually dont

they give too many chances and forgive too easily, leaving too many weaknesses.

why are you not entirely against christianity then

you said ou aren't 100%

Im not 100% fond of christianity, nor completely against it. Some things I like and some things I dislike.

And because I dont believe in the christian or any religious god

so what do you like about it

If there was a creator(s) we likely know nothing about, them, it, him, her.

Some stories and metaphors.

aswell as others that I cant remember atm

I found stories to be pretty boring tbh

I know lots of atheists love reading them though

Like the story of jesus and stuff

I havent read the bible in my life

I've listened to mainly JP and other christians talk about it though

I will eventually read the bible aswell as other religious texts and books

do you like ayn rand?

Havent read about her yet either.

ah ok

I should and will likely

in the near future

I don't understand why she and nietzsche are considered controversial

by most people

because it challenges them

their social structures

they're not designed that way

but in order to escape tyranny you need to be able to lead yourself if other options arent available

I mean ayn rand contributed to libertarianism

The problem with current social structures is being too dependent on a leader.

and I don't see any of it so controverisal

like libertarianism

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I wouldnt know, I've never read her.

I've seen people say it wouldn't be allowed on campuses today

like it's some fascist type shit

I've heard of people say to kill a mocking bird shouldnt be allowed on campuses today