Message from @Amoviet

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2018-08-02 20:25:47 UTC  

utopian socialism doesnt destroy the status quo

2018-08-02 20:25:51 UTC  

it goes hand in hand

2018-08-02 20:25:52 UTC  

not to facism, not to capitalism, not to the tooth fairy

2018-08-02 20:26:09 UTC  

i mean reactionary is an explicitly right wing term and has been used as such whenever it is used

2018-08-02 20:26:18 UTC  

not true

2018-08-02 20:26:19 UTC  

there are left wing reactionaries

2018-08-02 20:26:21 UTC  

Conformunism creates a new status quo worse than the one before

2018-08-02 20:26:21 UTC  

socdems

2018-08-02 20:26:28 UTC  

trotskyists

2018-08-02 20:26:30 UTC  

leftcoms

2018-08-02 20:26:33 UTC  

dengists

2018-08-02 20:26:40 UTC  

how are trots and leftcoms reactionary?

2018-08-02 20:26:48 UTC  

Reactionary was a common term back in weimar germany, i know that for sure

2018-08-02 20:26:54 UTC  

used by the communists

2018-08-02 20:26:58 UTC  

leftcoms divorce the movement rom the masses

2018-08-02 20:27:11 UTC  

You get assimilated into the Borg

2018-08-02 20:27:20 UTC  

trots dont believe in the proletarian and peasant alliance

2018-08-02 20:27:33 UTC  

what the fuck are you talking about? yes we do

2018-08-02 20:27:46 UTC  

thats why trotsky wanted to liquidate the russian revolution

2018-08-02 20:27:55 UTC  

he was a defeatist

2018-08-02 20:28:05 UTC  

trotsky literally led the red army in the revolution

2018-08-02 20:28:10 UTC  

How does far right ideology not threaten the status quo?

2018-08-02 20:28:14 UTC  

the civil war

2018-08-02 20:28:26 UTC  

he did horribly in some campaigns too

2018-08-02 20:28:31 UTC  

poland for example

2018-08-02 20:28:31 UTC  

Or Anarchism or something

2018-08-02 20:28:35 UTC  

that doesnt make him reactionary

2018-08-02 20:28:42 UTC  

the fact is

2018-08-02 20:28:44 UTC  

facism was a reaction to the emergence of socialism and the worker movement

2018-08-02 20:28:47 UTC  

he was a menshevik

2018-08-02 20:28:49 UTC  

Recreationary

2018-08-02 20:28:54 UTC  

the status quo was conservativism

2018-08-02 20:29:02 UTC  

and he collaborated with the rightist faction

2018-08-02 20:29:04 UTC  

Recreationary

2018-08-02 20:29:04 UTC  

also it should be mentioned the war in poland was lost because of lenin's order to attack when trotsky wanted to conserve his forces

2018-08-02 20:29:09 UTC  

such as tukhachevsky

2018-08-02 20:29:13 UTC  

Fascism is an anti-materialist revision of Marxism

2018-08-02 20:29:26 UTC  

Recreationary

2018-08-02 20:29:34 UTC  

@Frosty shut up

2018-08-02 20:29:40 UTC  

Recreationary

2018-08-02 20:29:52 UTC  

Coming from Georges Sorel’s Sorelianism