Message from @comuna redpill

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2018-08-03 00:38:45 UTC  

But in fact the capitalists have them on their hand

2018-08-03 00:39:02 UTC  

They are kept under their vigilance and limits

2018-08-03 00:39:11 UTC  

That's why it's popular

2018-08-03 00:39:45 UTC  

It gives some level of "working class unity" while being reactionary

2018-08-03 00:39:51 UTC  

Like social democracy

2018-08-03 00:40:51 UTC  

look at this oppression

2018-08-03 00:40:56 UTC  

only in trump's america

2018-08-03 00:41:02 UTC  

Lenin explains left deviationism in the text I talked about

2018-08-03 00:41:02 UTC  

i'm literally shaking

2018-08-03 00:41:18 UTC  

Nice

2018-08-03 00:42:00 UTC  

Shake a lot

2018-08-03 00:42:11 UTC  

Until your brain starts to work

2018-08-03 00:53:01 UTC  

So I thought Trotsky was more anti capitalist than Lenin?

2018-08-03 00:53:11 UTC  
2018-08-03 00:54:19 UTC  

He wanted socialism straight from feudalism

2018-08-03 00:54:32 UTC  

Lenin wanted a period of capitalism right?

2018-08-03 00:55:35 UTC  

That's essentially denying science

2018-08-03 00:55:48 UTC  

So it's in fact "less" socialist

2018-08-03 00:55:50 UTC  
2018-08-03 00:56:19 UTC  

Romantic anti capitalism is not scientific socialism aka marxism

2018-08-03 00:56:44 UTC  

@Frosty and nope Russia was not totally feudalist

2018-08-03 00:56:58 UTC  

It was recently turned into a capitalist nation

2018-08-03 00:57:11 UTC  

So Lenin wanted a period of capitalism?

2018-08-03 00:57:15 UTC  

So still had strong feudal aspects

2018-08-03 00:57:27 UTC  

Yep to create the conditions for socialism

2018-08-03 00:57:33 UTC  

That was the NEP

2018-08-03 00:57:45 UTC  

Which ended by the 30's

2018-08-03 00:58:18 UTC  

The vanguard party?

2018-08-03 00:58:29 UTC  

Basically being state run capitalism

2018-08-03 00:58:37 UTC  

For a time

2018-08-03 00:58:41 UTC  

Yep

2018-08-03 00:58:50 UTC  

Just to create the conditions

2018-08-03 00:58:55 UTC  

How does state run capitalism work

2018-08-03 00:59:01 UTC  

And bring the peasants closer

2018-08-03 00:59:07 UTC  

I seems counter intuitive

2018-08-03 00:59:14 UTC  

@Frosty it's not

2018-08-03 00:59:31 UTC  

In fact it's a common road for all capitalist developed nations

2018-08-03 01:00:19 UTC  

State run economy isn't counter intuitive to capitaljsm

2018-08-03 01:00:21 UTC  

Interesting so Trotsky was less socialist because he was too socialist making him a detriment to the communist movement?

2018-08-03 01:00:44 UTC  

Oversimplifying it yeah