Putting it simply

Marxists aren't romantic anti capitalists

So...are their any rules in this server or......?

I...don't really see any guidelines.

I think it's on the fixed messages

@Angery NPC

Aristocracy is a positive influence I'd say until they are replaced with merchants and become bourgeois/decadent. Without a nation's leader class it becomes easy for it to be controlled by (((internationalist interests))) who become the ruling class by default after the overthrow of the nation's leadership.

It's not bad if it's national!

not an argument.

monarcom

Internationalism is essential

Nations eventually will fade

And the proletariat is a world class

And should have world iron unity

The proletariat of the foreign country is more important than the bourgeois class of mine

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Aristocracy and bourgeois are the same thing in capitalism

They are, because by that stage the Aristocracy ceased to be nobility and became the merchant class.

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@Deleted User plus sorry for that statement above I didn't know terrific meant formidable

if i get wealth by threatening to kill u that is good

bit

but

if i get wealth by exploiting the working class

hmm!

Implying the nobility can't partake into the bourgeoisie

bad!

The German junkers are the best example

implying that nobility and bourgeoisie are the same thing

They formed the national bourgeoisie

Mainly the Prussian ones of course

I never did that

But you say they can't exist as one

And the progression of society ruled by commodities slowly strips away the noble formalities

Only if they have been corrupted and detached from the life of the national community.

"Corrupted"

Why so?

Because nobility eventually changed its definition to having material wealth, instead of character, virtue, good breeding.

And what they had before?

They were feudal lords

They focused on brute power and wealthyness as well