Message from @Deleted User

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2018-08-22 02:19:34 UTC  

we have no right to interfere with another stable nation

2018-08-22 02:19:47 UTC  

Why do you like it?

2018-08-22 02:20:01 UTC  

i like the freedom it provides me

2018-08-22 02:20:05 UTC  

i like the protection it gives me

2018-08-22 02:20:23 UTC  

i like the people we have

2018-08-22 02:21:47 UTC  

It is a personal benefit that makes you like united culture?

2018-08-22 02:21:52 UTC  
2018-08-22 02:22:09 UTC  

i also think that tribal mentality is natural

2018-08-22 02:22:23 UTC  

Check this

2018-08-22 02:22:32 UTC  

id rather have us be divided based on things we can chose like our ideas

2018-08-22 02:22:34 UTC  

than our race

2018-08-22 02:23:25 UTC  

What if your nation will stop providing you comfort of freedom, protection and you become displeased with people in it?

2018-08-22 02:23:55 UTC  

than i will advocate improving the nation and gather like minded individuals to either topple the government responsible or create a new one

2018-08-22 02:24:29 UTC  

What if people in your nation will fight against it?

2018-08-22 02:24:41 UTC  

Than i guess i will fight to the death for my ideals

2018-08-22 02:25:23 UTC  

The abstractions are more important for you than your own people?

2018-08-22 02:26:00 UTC  

i like our people because of our generosity because of the fact we progress because of the fact were willing to change

2018-08-22 02:26:12 UTC  

if people were no longer like that why even fight for them

2018-08-22 02:27:59 UTC  

You would divide your nation and fight the part of it because it does not provide personal benefit to you and does not support your individual ideals?

2018-08-22 02:28:53 UTC  

i dont care if it benefits me personally i care if the nation benefits the majority without attempting to oppress the minority

2018-08-22 02:29:01 UTC  

in terms of political beliefs

2018-08-22 02:31:11 UTC  

So if there is no freedom that you benefit and no protection that you benefit and your people having different ideals, you're ready to put your ideals higher their ideals, you are ready to fight part of your people because it is not the way you personally like?

2018-08-22 02:31:43 UTC  

If there is no freedom in general i am not for censoring anyone not even neo nazis who want me dead for my race

2018-08-22 02:32:19 UTC  

What if people of your nation dislike an ideal of freedom?

2018-08-22 02:33:30 UTC  

than they have brainwashed

2018-08-22 02:33:45 UTC  

No, they have a different ideal.

2018-08-22 02:34:02 UTC  

It is possible for idealists to have different ideals.

2018-08-22 02:35:19 UTC  

also i think that if any group is being censored they are being oppressed

2018-08-22 02:36:17 UTC  

So you will disregard any other ideal opposing yours and will fight with your nation in such case?

2018-08-22 02:36:32 UTC  

depends on the ideal

2018-08-22 02:36:38 UTC  

Freedom

2018-08-22 02:36:41 UTC  

yes

2018-08-22 02:36:50 UTC  

because at that point it is no longer my nation

2018-08-22 02:40:14 UTC  

We have similar perception than. Aside of yours being idealistic. I think any nation supporting Marxism must be cherished and it may have any benefit as long as it is on the course of implementing Marxist thought.

2018-08-22 02:40:38 UTC  

yeah i think idealists think alike even when their ideals are different

2018-08-22 02:41:16 UTC  

if a nation doesnt treat its people right it might aswell be a foriegn power and if you treat them wrong enough they will become one

2018-08-22 02:41:17 UTC  

We are ready to declare a special position of a Marxist nation and give it all the benefits above other nations.

2018-08-22 02:47:12 UTC  

i think both nationalism and some forms of socialism can agree on self reliance.

2018-08-22 02:47:16 UTC  

but for different reasons of course

2018-08-22 02:50:07 UTC  

Nationalism can be bourgoise and can be proletarian

2018-08-22 02:50:21 UTC  

But nationalism still is a feeling