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we have no right to interfere with another stable nation
Why do you like it?
i like the freedom it provides me
i like the protection it gives me
i like the people we have
It is a personal benefit that makes you like united culture?
i also think that tribal mentality is natural
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id rather have us be divided based on things we can chose like our ideas
than our race
What if your nation will stop providing you comfort of freedom, protection and you become displeased with people in it?
than i will advocate improving the nation and gather like minded individuals to either topple the government responsible or create a new one
What if people in your nation will fight against it?
Than i guess i will fight to the death for my ideals
The abstractions are more important for you than your own people?
i like our people because of our generosity because of the fact we progress because of the fact were willing to change
if people were no longer like that why even fight for them
You would divide your nation and fight the part of it because it does not provide personal benefit to you and does not support your individual ideals?
i dont care if it benefits me personally i care if the nation benefits the majority without attempting to oppress the minority
So if there is no freedom that you benefit and no protection that you benefit and your people having different ideals, you're ready to put your ideals higher their ideals, you are ready to fight part of your people because it is not the way you personally like?
If there is no freedom in general i am not for censoring anyone not even neo nazis who want me dead for my race
What if people of your nation dislike an ideal of freedom?
than they have brainwashed
No, they have a different ideal.
It is possible for idealists to have different ideals.
also i think that if any group is being censored they are being oppressed
So you will disregard any other ideal opposing yours and will fight with your nation in such case?
depends on the ideal
Freedom
yes
because at that point it is no longer my nation
We have similar perception than. Aside of yours being idealistic. I think any nation supporting Marxism must be cherished and it may have any benefit as long as it is on the course of implementing Marxist thought.
yeah i think idealists think alike even when their ideals are different
if a nation doesnt treat its people right it might aswell be a foriegn power and if you treat them wrong enough they will become one
We are ready to declare a special position of a Marxist nation and give it all the benefits above other nations.
i think both nationalism and some forms of socialism can agree on self reliance.
but for different reasons of course
Nationalism can be bourgoise and can be proletarian
But nationalism still is a feeling