Message from @catholic

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2018-11-13 22:51:38 UTC  

Brazil didn't have a right/left distinction until this year, it's more about populism/elites

2018-11-13 22:52:06 UTC  

do people think bolsonaro isn't corrupt?

2018-11-13 22:52:37 UTC  

I feel like a good corruption scandal in the lead up to the election could've destroyed him

2018-11-13 22:53:08 UTC  

PT (workers party) was and still is strong in poor states but the sentiment of richer places was basically "We're driving the country, these scum are leeching off of us, etc"

2018-11-13 22:54:24 UTC  

Sorta, he used to be pretty niche, he supported nazi events in Sao Paulo and was mocked for it as everyone there looked borderline black

2018-11-13 22:54:40 UTC  

did the stabbing help him a lot?

2018-11-13 22:55:06 UTC  

Not really

2018-11-13 22:56:02 UTC  

Running on a 'death to all criminals' speech made him win centrist support

2018-11-13 22:56:39 UTC  

What happened to that woman who worked with Lula, the one who was captured by someone, I forgot her name

2018-11-13 22:56:49 UTC  

Dilma or Marisa?

2018-11-13 22:56:54 UTC  

Dilma

2018-11-13 22:57:04 UTC  

She got impeached by a technicallity

2018-11-13 22:57:29 UTC  

she used bank loans to pay for internal debt, wich was something every president up to her did

2018-11-13 22:58:36 UTC  

but the economic crisis was enough to build a strong opposition to take her out of power

2018-11-13 22:59:43 UTC  

wow

2018-11-13 22:59:57 UTC  

what are you guys going to do when bolsonaro gets sworn in?

2018-11-13 23:01:27 UTC  

The average bolsonaro supporter fell into mostly 2 beliefs, PT was responsible for corruption that prevented Brazil to grow and Leftists were trying to turn the country into Venezuela

2018-11-13 23:02:10 UTC  

sworn in?

2018-11-13 23:02:33 UTC  

when he starts acting as president

2018-11-13 23:02:41 UTC  

In January

2018-11-13 23:03:03 UTC  

the left pretty much did nothing, we're opposing him peacefully

2018-11-13 23:03:21 UTC  

I'm trying to steer my university out of idpol and into populist leftism

2018-11-13 23:03:53 UTC  

public unis are way stronger and prestigious than private ones here

2018-11-13 23:04:48 UTC  

that's why you lost

2018-11-13 23:04:56 UTC  

Idpol is failing around the world right now

2018-11-13 23:05:27 UTC  

go back to your roots with populist grassroots politics that adress the poor

2018-11-13 23:05:35 UTC  

yes, but idpol didn't really take hold of our leftism that much, it was mainly college grads

2018-11-13 23:05:42 UTC  

ye

2018-11-13 23:06:11 UTC  

I actually went on a debate with the students representation

2018-11-13 23:06:36 UTC  

about how idpol was seen as elitism, and if we wanted to win something we had to enter propaganda war

2018-11-13 23:07:58 UTC  

I managed to change their minds about it mostly

2018-11-13 23:08:03 UTC  

you need to destroy his populist image and point out he's a product of elites

2018-11-13 23:08:14 UTC  

yep

2018-11-13 23:08:23 UTC  

redpilling people about Lula is possible

2018-11-13 23:08:52 UTC  

also try to force him into debates

2018-11-13 23:08:58 UTC  

there's this kind of rush from discovering one of the biggest polititians in the country was arrested unjustly

2018-11-13 23:09:02 UTC  

he seems like an idiot

2018-11-13 23:09:34 UTC  

he doesn't do debates anymore due to how many voters he lost

2018-11-13 23:09:57 UTC  

yeah but try to force him into a situation

2018-11-13 23:10:02 UTC  

now he mimics trump but instead of tweeting he streams on facebook

2018-11-13 23:10:38 UTC  

I think we gotta use disinformation