I'm still struggling to comprehend how people can go from 87% support of Lula to supporting a open fascist

In less than a year

I'm struggling to find words in english but I'll try

It's alright

Lula's arrest was heavily supported by the media/elites and got popular support by strawmanning that brazillian corruption was his fault.

If you try debating with anyone about this they 90% of the time delete the post because there's no proof of anything

Brazil didn't have a right/left distinction until this year, it's more about populism/elites

do people think bolsonaro isn't corrupt?

I feel like a good corruption scandal in the lead up to the election could've destroyed him

PT (workers party) was and still is strong in poor states but the sentiment of richer places was basically "We're driving the country, these scum are leeching off of us, etc"

Sorta, he used to be pretty niche, he supported nazi events in Sao Paulo and was mocked for it as everyone there looked borderline black

did the stabbing help him a lot?

Not really

Running on a 'death to all criminals' speech made him win centrist support

What happened to that woman who worked with Lula, the one who was captured by someone, I forgot her name

Dilma or Marisa?

Dilma

She got impeached by a technicallity

she used bank loans to pay for internal debt, wich was something every president up to her did

but the economic crisis was enough to build a strong opposition to take her out of power

wow

what are you guys going to do when bolsonaro gets sworn in?

The average bolsonaro supporter fell into mostly 2 beliefs, PT was responsible for corruption that prevented Brazil to grow and Leftists were trying to turn the country into Venezuela

sworn in?

when he starts acting as president

In January

the left pretty much did nothing, we're opposing him peacefully

I'm trying to steer my university out of idpol and into populist leftism

public unis are way stronger and prestigious than private ones here

that's why you lost

Idpol is failing around the world right now

go back to your roots with populist grassroots politics that adress the poor

yes, but idpol didn't really take hold of our leftism that much, it was mainly college grads

ye

I actually went on a debate with the students representation

about how idpol was seen as elitism, and if we wanted to win something we had to enter propaganda war

I managed to change their minds about it mostly

you need to destroy his populist image and point out he's a product of elites

yep

redpilling people about Lula is possible

also try to force him into debates