Message from @Hooty

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2018-11-13 23:42:52 UTC  

noice

2018-11-13 23:43:28 UTC  

I'd say a combination of maoism and Luxemburgism

2018-11-13 23:43:50 UTC  

I'm whatever New Zealand and Canada is because those seem like pretty cool places to live in

2018-11-13 23:44:20 UTC  

but China is making a pretty good point about taking a dirt poor country and making it a powerhouse in little to no time

2018-11-13 23:45:01 UTC  

but I don't know much about how China's economy works

2018-11-13 23:45:15 UTC  

and yet much of the population remains dirt poor

2018-11-13 23:45:34 UTC  

...and suicidal *cough* Foxconn

2018-11-13 23:45:49 UTC  

true, but no country takes more people out of poverty than China too

2018-11-13 23:46:15 UTC  

This is why Dengism is a joke

2018-11-13 23:46:17 UTC  

I mean

2018-11-13 23:46:49 UTC  

compared to where they were pre-1949, yes

2018-11-13 23:46:57 UTC  

definitely

2018-11-13 23:47:25 UTC  

Communism is an ad hoc hypothesis

2018-11-13 23:47:26 UTC  

You filthy amerikans

2018-11-13 23:47:55 UTC  

I'm not an American <:ho:315613510589480964>

2018-11-13 23:48:41 UTC  

Do we even know what we want tho

2018-11-13 23:48:44 UTC  

from the state

2018-11-13 23:49:24 UTC  

Statism

2018-11-13 23:49:25 UTC  

The right has basically 1 or 2 forms of organizing the state they're going for, the Left has like 30

2018-11-13 23:50:08 UTC  

Aren’t you supposed to be anarchists?

2018-11-13 23:50:27 UTC  

Advocating for a stateless, classless, moneyless society?

2018-11-13 23:50:55 UTC  

when society reaches a certain level of development

2018-11-13 23:50:57 UTC  

The proletariat are to organise themselves into a state in order to gain control of the means of production. They are represented in Marxism-Leninism specifically, by a vanguard party and the subsequent people's republic representatives

2018-11-13 23:51:43 UTC  

but nowadays industries don't play a big role, most people are working in service/finantial jobs I think

2018-11-13 23:51:55 UTC  

they do

2018-11-13 23:52:14 UTC  

and the means of production aren't that easy to take hold of as stopping the production line

2018-11-13 23:53:21 UTC  

Did @Mr. X die of ligma?

2018-11-13 23:53:25 UTC  

maybe

2018-11-13 23:53:41 UTC  

he will surely resurrect

2018-11-13 23:54:49 UTC  

@catholic without *workers*, who will do the *work*?

2018-11-13 23:56:06 UTC  

It really isn't that complicated. The welfare of Capitalists is dependent upon the efforts of the worker, although they gain a disproportionately greater product from the collective effort of the workers

2018-11-13 23:56:38 UTC  

but what would be the achievable version of this, as the way stopping immigration and deporting illegals is to an ethnostate

2018-11-13 23:57:07 UTC  

that's true for big business, not so much small

2018-11-13 23:57:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/512053432106876929/image0.jpg

2018-11-13 23:58:49 UTC  

Are you talking about illegal workers?

2018-11-13 23:59:22 UTC  

No, I'm talking about short term goals that would get to these ideals

2018-11-13 23:59:45 UTC  

If you want to build an ethnostate, start by closing borders

2018-11-13 23:59:56 UTC  

If you want to build a socialist state, start by

2018-11-14 00:00:23 UTC  

Nazbol gang

2018-11-14 00:00:26 UTC  

minimum wage?