Socialism is the government being run by workings and leading a state that benefits everyone.

Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society born out of Socialism.

It's not exploitative

Essentially lol

@TheTeacher That's what I said

I'm still relatively new to leftism, I may have some things wrong.

I only became a leftist in like 2017.

Capitalism is not exploitative

"Stealing labour value from the industrial proletariat isn't theft"

people get paid a wage

they can use it as they please

Up till then I was a Libertarian and then a Liberal.

The problem is government

Paid an unlivable wage.

Guys did you know that

aka legislation and taxation

Libertarian? You mean ancap.

Wages now are shit.

@TheTeacher Because government

Guys if I force you to make an iPhone but I give you 1 cent it isn't slavery

Are you sure about that?

All liberals are communists and socialism equates to big gubberment

@Borzo If workers were paid that little that they couldn't even use it, they wouldn't work

and the company would fail

dumbass

Those Chinese kids are paid a fair wage!

China

Corporations can pay whatever they want due to the difference of private and public sector.

@Borzo In China they can still buy food

with it

Amazon willingly raised their wages with no government interference.

Besides that's their fault

Corporations can choose to pay people more.

for being communist

They just choose not to. It is more profitable to cut wages.

"suffer"

you mean thrive

Lmao

No, we mean suffer.

Those Chinese kids sure are thriving under capitalism, eh

@TheTeacher Yeah because every single cent they make is taxed