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Message from @Borzo

Discord ID: 530125442162753537

2019-01-02 20:45:57 UTC

Nothing is easier than to give Christian asceticism a Socialist tinge. Has not Christianity declaimed against private property, against marriage, against the State? Has it not preached in the place of these, charity and poverty, celibacy and mortification of the flesh, monastic life and Mother Church? Christian Socialism is but the holy water with which the priest consecrates the heart-burnings of the aristocrat.

2019-01-02 20:46:04 UTC

Ok so you cant answer my question? Why can the proletariat join the working class if they are so different?

2019-01-02 20:46:15 UTC

you arent listening at all

2019-01-02 20:46:18 UTC

GG

2019-01-02 20:46:32 UTC

the proles can join the bourgeoisie

2019-01-02 20:46:49 UTC

Only in order to overthrow an existing ruling class

2019-01-02 20:46:54 UTC

such as the aristocracy in france

2019-01-02 20:47:00 UTC

and feudal landlords

2019-01-02 20:47:09 UTC

hence french revolution

2019-01-02 20:47:39 UTC

>Why can the proletariat join the working class if they are so different?

2019-01-02 20:47:44 UTC

what does this even mean?

2019-01-02 20:48:01 UTC

the proletariat is the modern working class

2019-01-02 20:48:11 UTC

How am i being exploited if i can chose to change my "class"?

2019-01-02 20:48:19 UTC

in feudal society it was the serf and peasant

2019-01-02 20:48:33 UTC

good luck doing that

2019-01-02 20:48:36 UTC

But this isnt feudalism

2019-01-02 20:48:42 UTC

I am doing that lol

2019-01-02 20:48:45 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUtuU9qygk

2019-01-02 20:49:02 UTC

its very rare that a poor person becomes rich

2019-01-02 20:49:06 UTC

but it happens

2019-01-02 20:49:14 UTC

there are rich proletarians

2019-01-02 20:49:24 UTC

and there are poor bourgeoisie

2019-01-02 20:49:30 UTC

But doesnt that mean that your idea of class is arbirtary?

2019-01-02 20:49:32 UTC

the majority of proletarians are poor

2019-01-02 20:49:32 UTC

it also happens that a prole can become petit bourgeois

2019-01-02 20:49:42 UTC

the majority of bourgeoisie are rich

2019-01-02 20:50:10 UTC

It has always been exploitation of the many by the few ever since ancient times

2019-01-02 20:50:27 UTC

slavemaster and freeman

2019-01-02 20:50:32 UTC

I think marxists are just misguided

2019-01-02 20:50:36 UTC

patrician and plebeian

2019-01-02 20:51:02 UTC

when you refuse to even pay the slightest attention to theory, of course you would think that

2019-01-02 20:51:14 UTC

Can i ask you a question?

2019-01-02 20:51:24 UTC

no

2019-01-02 20:51:27 UTC

Im going to bed

2019-01-02 20:51:33 UTC

you arent listening anyway

2019-01-02 20:51:57 UTC

If value comes from labor, then why are things a machine makes valuable?

2019-01-02 20:51:59 UTC

i think marxism is retarded

2019-01-02 20:52:19 UTC

If i have an automated factory, why are those products valuable?

2019-01-02 20:52:50 UTC

Oof I just got banned from a server

2019-01-02 20:53:00 UTC

Surely a car has value whether its made by a robot or a person?

2019-01-02 20:53:08 UTC

I don’t even know what server