just braying

Only recently has the immigration patterns of Europe changed tso dramatically

@Apple Pie hmm i wonder why

prove it

capital never existed outside the state and never will be

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ok so you won't prove it

so you're wrong

lmao

@T. Raven It's mostly due to a declining birthrate of Native Western Europeans due to a lack of faith in religion and a spiritual void they tend to fill with hedonism.

show me example of stateless capitalism then

@Apple Pie and what do you think causes "hedonism"

Hedonism is inherent in people who decide not to embrace any spiritualism

not an answer

it means you have no proof to show and you are wrong

what caused hedonism in europe

It's mostly a problem in Northen Europe

what caused hedonism in europe, stop dodging

'capitalism' has always been known as 'corporatism'

Like I said I think it's a result of the downfall of religious institutions but of course they had their own problems.

me when capital accumulated into the hands of a small few and suddenly stops being capitalism because um

@Apple Pie why did the religious institutions fall

it is just capitalism with state if more effiscient at making money dye to monopoly the final goal of every capitalist

when people say otherwise they are just suggesting the removal of the state

@T. Raven Read Nietzsche if you haven't, he outlines this really well.

answer my question

They fell largely due to corruption.

the sky is blue

kmao

All institutions fall due to corruption because man is inherently falliable.

>implying capitalists have to worry about hunger

Communism is merely a goal to strive for

It will never be reached physically

the downfall of the feudalism in europe and the replacement of feudal lords, kings, and the clergy with the bourgeoisie is mostly to blame for the rise of "hedonism"

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Perhaps if we overcame the human form something of the sort would arrive...

YAY

this is a stupid argument. Read socialism: utopian and scientific

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