capitalism is not necessarily corporatism

when the capitalists dont want to pay natives regular wages they can just invite the "brown hordes" to do it for even less

That has been a mainly American phenomenon

@Apple Pie "corporatism" if it even exists is a natural consequence of the accumulation of capital

saying "not how it works" isn't an argument

refute my assertions or shut up

best way to make money is to insert lobbiest into goverment and gain a monopoly for yourself

you aren't proving anything lmaoo

just braying

Only recently has the immigration patterns of Europe changed tso dramatically

@Apple Pie hmm i wonder why

prove it

capital never existed outside the state and never will be

^

ok so you won't prove it

so you're wrong

lmao

@T. Raven It's mostly due to a declining birthrate of Native Western Europeans due to a lack of faith in religion and a spiritual void they tend to fill with hedonism.

show me example of stateless capitalism then

@Apple Pie and what do you think causes "hedonism"

Hedonism is inherent in people who decide not to embrace any spiritualism

not an answer

it means you have no proof to show and you are wrong

what caused hedonism in europe

It's mostly a problem in Northen Europe

what caused hedonism in europe, stop dodging

'capitalism' has always been known as 'corporatism'

Like I said I think it's a result of the downfall of religious institutions but of course they had their own problems.

me when capital accumulated into the hands of a small few and suddenly stops being capitalism because um

@Apple Pie why did the religious institutions fall

it is just capitalism with state if more effiscient at making money dye to monopoly the final goal of every capitalist

when people say otherwise they are just suggesting the removal of the state

@T. Raven Read Nietzsche if you haven't, he outlines this really well.

answer my question

They fell largely due to corruption.

the sky is blue

kmao