it is just capitalism with state if more effiscient at making money dye to monopoly the final goal of every capitalist

when people say otherwise they are just suggesting the removal of the state

@T. Raven Read Nietzsche if you haven't, he outlines this really well.

answer my question

They fell largely due to corruption.

the sky is blue

kmao

All institutions fall due to corruption because man is inherently falliable.

>implying capitalists have to worry about hunger

Communism is merely a goal to strive for

It will never be reached physically

the downfall of the feudalism in europe and the replacement of feudal lords, kings, and the clergy with the bourgeoisie is mostly to blame for the rise of "hedonism"

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Perhaps if we overcame the human form something of the sort would arrive...

YAY

this is a stupid argument. Read socialism: utopian and scientific

mr e is back ^_^

gee i'd love to pursue my spiritual needs if i wasnt alienated by wage labor and spectacle society

welcome back bby ❤ @Mr. X

wtf

😢

platitudes you'd hear from your dad are not an argument

@T. Raven Ok, go kill some capitalists then.

Because you can't do shit but whine.

not an argument @Apple Pie

'it is'

"lol you want revolution go kill someone" 🙄

"gee i'd love to pursue my spiritual needs if i wasnt alienated by wage labor and spectacle society"

'give evidence'

'google it'

yikes

Like I said, fucking do something about it.

>expecting arguments in this server

make me

You can join a commune, they exist.

im bored @DOLBATIC

these arent even proper arguments

It's your right to do so

Go join some commune RAVEN

again, not an argument at all

okay this isnt going anywhere