Message from @DA GOMMIE JOO

Discord ID: 546804342817292288


2019-02-17 21:20:08 UTC  

read wealth of nations

2019-02-17 21:20:48 UTC  

no, the influence would not be there, most things would be formed by small business that would be regulated into doing the best of the nation's and people's interests

2019-02-17 21:21:03 UTC  

and big corporations would not even have any influence whatsover

2019-02-17 21:21:11 UTC  

no business would have influence over the state

2019-02-17 21:21:12 UTC  

so the cuban model?

2019-02-17 21:21:14 UTC  

or the NEP?

2019-02-17 21:21:44 UTC  

lenin must've been a fascist then

2019-02-17 21:22:22 UTC  

also the big international corporations wouldn't be present, only national markets and business would be granted incentives

2019-02-17 21:22:45 UTC  

you're just describing cuba here

2019-02-17 21:23:05 UTC  

well as I said

2019-02-17 21:23:12 UTC  

Fascism has elements of both sides so

2019-02-17 21:23:15 UTC  

communism is fascist I guess

2019-02-17 21:23:19 UTC  

no

2019-02-17 21:23:26 UTC  

communism is internationalistic

2019-02-17 21:23:35 UTC  

therefore it's incompatible with fascism

2019-02-17 21:23:53 UTC  

but capitalism requires expansion and growth in order to function

2019-02-17 21:24:02 UTC  

any fascist state would have to be imperialistically expanding constantly

2019-02-17 21:24:47 UTC  

again, we are not capitalistic and Fascist states can stay on their own

2019-02-17 21:25:08 UTC  

Fascist states in the past expanded, but for different reasons

2019-02-17 21:25:11 UTC  

and some didn't

2019-02-17 21:25:14 UTC  

have you ever seen fascism without capitalism?

2019-02-17 21:25:41 UTC  

tell me exactly what in fascism is so capitalistic

2019-02-17 21:26:01 UTC  

I still can't see it

2019-02-17 21:26:44 UTC  

it is pushed by capitalists to preserve capitalism by suppressing the workers

2019-02-17 21:27:08 UTC  

no

2019-02-17 21:27:09 UTC  

the state is strengthened to its maximum power and authority to protect property

2019-02-17 21:27:16 UTC  

no

2019-02-17 21:27:36 UTC  

it's strengthened to its maximum power to protect the nation's values, tradition and people

2019-02-17 21:27:52 UTC  

you'd be surprised at how easy it is to manipulate those

2019-02-17 21:28:07 UTC  

de beers invented basically every diamond-related tradition

2019-02-17 21:28:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/546805155329474560/a5f.png

2019-02-17 21:28:57 UTC  

ok so

2019-02-17 21:29:09 UTC  

how would I manipulate my nation's traditions and values

2019-02-17 21:29:20 UTC  

it's seems straighfoward for me

2019-02-17 21:29:20 UTC  

easy
invent history

2019-02-17 21:29:51 UTC  

make the claim that it's always been that way

2019-02-17 21:30:18 UTC  

did you know that before the 1920s nobody had ever heard of bacon and eggs?

2019-02-17 21:30:32 UTC  

it was an advertising campaign to establish bacon as normal breakfast food

2019-02-17 21:30:41 UTC  

ok wait

2019-02-17 21:31:07 UTC  

never stop lying until the lie ingrains itself into their minds