The founding fathers probably wouldn't have a true opinion on it, if I am being honest.

As far as I know about them, they were kinda succdem.

What makes you say that?

I think his opinions changed on it as the civil war went on.

I do know, he wasn't as forward thinking as people like to claim he is.

The Emancipation Proclemation was done to make the civil war look moral to stop France and Britain from supporting the south.

Fair enough.

The founding fathers were aware of class

That much is true.

However their hopes were to cut away what-they-didn’t-know-of-as-but-definitely-was the ruling class

Just they were also higher class and so the cycle began anew just not from an island thousands of miles away

Yeah, Lincoln did change his view on slaves as time went on. Lincoln was friends with Frederick Douglass who attested to him being more sympathetic as time went on.

Pakistan zindabad

Ah! There is the best troll leftypol has!

Hello DOg, how is it going?

get a job, fed

Ah, you always come in with those good trolls.

So, how do you feel about the India and Pakistan conflict happening currently?

india got owned

2 destroyed jets and a helicopter

Ha ha ha!

Both countries have nukes...

so?

we have more nukes and mirv capability

It's possible the conflict might no nuclear.

Nothing will fuck up an Americans perception of history more than realizing that there is no way in nine hells the founding fathers were the only faction trying to gain all of the colonies independence

India airforce isn't that great

it's full of old soviet hardware

There absolutely were other factions and they were washed away by the tides of time

True.

The JF17, a jointly pakistani and chinese developed aircraft, would btfo any indian aircraft

Most of our view of history is overly simplified or whitewashed.

55% of the the current Indian airforce is in service

the rest are far too broken to work

Do you want the conflict to go nuclear?

(((idea)))

I don't.

I am just asking out Pakistani troll if he *wants* it to.

You need better reading comprehension, dude.

India still hasn't provided pictures of the site they allegedly striked

Just because world war Z talked about how it’s not likely doesn’t mean it’s impossible