Unless you live in Africa or the Balkans, you probably won't see us

Sure

Ha I remember when russia tried to claim black water was helping the Ukrainians

^ never trust Russia

^

Speaking of which, y'all see the SU-57?

Neg

Competitor to the F-22/35

But it still uses an engine designed by the Soviet Union

Ooooooof brb guys hide n seek time

Imagine investing billions of dollars into advanced stealth technology, only to fuck yourself over by using a 45-50 year old Engine that has a well-known radar signature and no stealth capabilities whatsoever

F

@CatLoverKid I mean the F-35 didn't do much better right?

F-35 is fucking amazing

not at dogfighting

But everything else?

Stealth is really fucking good when you're not using the VTOL/STOVL.
Also depends on what munitions you're carrying

Speed is supersonic (M1.6), so it checks that box

Tracking

data uplink, sensor capabilities, passive radar, AESA radar, etc are all top of the line

I mean I’d pick speed over stealth tbh

F-35 isn't meant to rely on its own sensing capabilities, it uses MADL to share info with other planes, radars, vehicles, ground forces, etc

If I can go faster then your missle then you can go fuck your self

Eh

nothing can fly faster than a SAM, so best to make sure you're never spotter to begin with

Lemme know when we have ospreys that are worth a fuck

LOL

Or any vtol

well Sikorsky made that ugly as fuck helo with (I think) Lockheed

Huge waste of time (and life)

ALL ospreys are worth a fuck

Look at that cutie

@GranddaddyAnon Russian S-400 SAM top speed is 11,000mph

@snowman imma stab you

Never said it was fast enough, I was just adding to the convo

dont make promises you cant keep

oh oh I see mb

And I vaguely remember a Merican project that actually did outspeed SAMs

When you University tells you to be more diverse and give back to people

some SCRAMJet can, but that's (as far as we know) YEEAAARRSSS from anythin usable