Don't give me that "They just want the American dream" bullshit. They send most of their money back to Mexico, further destabilizing the US economy. Yes some of them do come here simply to work. But a number of them are criminals, rapists, and dealers.

Right because they tooooootally never chose to get into dealing 🙄

So what I suggest is a total lockdown of the border for a year, sort out all the shit that needs to be done, maybe grant amnesty and citizenship to those here with a clear expiry window to apply, then strictly enforce the Visa system. You go past a day, you have ICE dragging you back with a permanant bar on your name

@Foxhound sending $500 for 3 months wages to your fuckin' family isn't destabilizing shit dude, but if you really believe sending money outside the US is destabilizing, how about we talk about the billionaires who send trillions of dollars out of the US to their offshore bank accounts

I'm sure the ones that raped and killed Americans would love to hear its Uncle Sam's fault. Maybe that'll grant the families closure.

Again: Bullshit. These fuckers are in my store shelling out hundreds of dollars for iPhones, apple watches, smart phones, Jordan's, airpods

Ok but the Drug war is an issue. It does contribute to the shithole most of those countries are

Don't try that moral high road shit with me Konot.

How we should handle it.

@Foxhound I'm not talkin' about moral high road anything, I'm saying that you're claim that some migrant farmer sending his family his menial fuckin' wages so they have food to eat while we have fuckin' CEOs offshoring literal trillions to the Grand Camans and Switzerland is about as retarded as Forest Gump

Don't do globalism kids

"Menial" right. That's why these fuckers shell out more money every week than I make in a month right?

And the reason why it seems like there are so many drug dealers is because when you're talking about sample groups as big as we are, 5% can be 10,000 people. So yeah, I'll agree with you, there's a lot of drug dealing and crime that goes with it. But don't sit here and tell me that the US government doesn't share the fuckin' blame. They weren't fighting Escobar they were fucking FUNDING him so they could fight the Sandinistas in Nicaragua (not saying they aren't scum either, but still). The drug wars are a failure and every American citizen who dies in the crossfire of em should be placed at the doorstep of the people responsible for starting it; the American government

@Foxhound well, when you work 3 different jobs, it's no wonder they have that kinda cash

Either that or they're drug dealing, and you know what, it's damn easy to make money at that

Dude. They work one. I've met their boss.

Ok but that money likely isnt taxed

I work 40 hour weeks and barely break even. They're in here every other week buying new phones and all kinds of shit.

And that's another issue. They don't contribute to the very society they wish to be in.

ie not contributing to what they use. Like I had a hospital bill with an extra charge tacked on to cover someone who couldn't pay, that shit dosen't fly with me

^

@Foxhound well just because that's what's happening where you are doesn't mean that's what's happening in other places. Every migrant worker I've met in my area send the majority of their money home to help their families and the rest they put towards buying food and supplies for themselves

Irrelevant of the majority, it still adds up to a fuckload of money being taken away from US buisiness.

Right, lets get away from the anecdotal evidence and focus solely on facts and statistics

@Foxhound your issue isn't with immigrants it's with the fuckin' billionaires

Why not both?

My issue *is* with *illegal* immigrants

Theres plenty of walls that need painting. Line em up.

@Foxhound what have illegal immigrants done to you?

Nothing

Nothing g

You wanna know what billionaires did to you?

They offshored your job

They kept you pior

*poor

Personally? quite a bit. On a National level, quite a bit

They destroyed your middle class

They ended the rise in theinimum wage

The made college tuition prices spike

They did that

I'm sorry but the very fact that they don't observe the right to EVERY nation to have its borders, and will walk thousands of miles to come to the United states instead of finding refugee status in any other South American country that offered. They came here.