(*imo*)

But you can keep shifting blame again by saying that the only reason that corps have the power to start wars is because the gov't has a military. Among SO SO many other blame shifts. This is just gonna keep continuing lol

@Foxhound with our very souls

@AKAlexei ok, we just seem to be coming from different sides of the same issue. And I do get where you're coming from

Wrong. The states duty is to prepare itself and the economy for collapse and to prevent it for the good of it's people.

Like agreed - but

Absolute power absolutely corrupts

y e s s s

so why don't we balance the power

Our republic tried

Tree of liberty and all that

The aim should be to prepare the nation for armed conflict or economic collapse.

if balance were everyone's self interest. . . ***cough*** FreeMarketLaissezFaireBlahBlah ***coughcoughcoughLUNGcough***

The state's duty is to represent the people on our behalf, make laws where necessary, collect taxes where necessary, and uphold those laws through legal services. It also has an oath to promote the general welfare, which many can and do argue is a simple way of saying it has the right to keep people from ending up broke, homeless, destitute, and with no way out other than a bullet

The republic failed.

The state does have some responsibility to help during a recession or collapse, I suppose. It’s an organizing, unifying force (so long as it is kept small or decentralized, neither of which our government is)

The republic was manipulated

omg look it begins again

see we're right back at square one!

and we're gonna STAY at square one because both corps and gov't have too much power over each other

so there's no clear way to blame anyone here

The republic failed from the very beginning.
"I tried to give you a democracy, but they chose a republic and they can keep it!"

Corporations control governments. Sorry.

Corprotism is the evil, not necessarily corporations or capatalism. In the same stroke that government corruption and tyranny is evil, not necessarily the govt

governments control corporations, sorry

fug republics constitutional monarchy is best

Bullshit

okay

It's almost like. . . if people have an avenue to control other people. . .

Governments control corporations? Really? That's the hill you want to fight for?

do you make more than minimum wage?

yes?????

No.

I don't

are you unemployed????

Nope.

so you're in the military?

Nope.

well just tell me then

where's the catch

What catch are you referring to?