this is the issue

Do you not see how this kind of rhetoric isn't helpful?

Opposite of helpful, in fact.

you are just not fond of the truth really.. i guess.

funny enough caesar chavez would probably have been a trump supporter

all ive said is to restrict immigration based on data/evidence on why this is important

First generation immigrants shouldn't have voting rights change my mind

I'm for stemming immigration, even legal. But when your reason is "because I want to stem Democrat voters" rather than for economic reasons, societal reasons, etc., reasons that crosses demographic boundaries, it's a poor political message.

if you care about the fact that the dems dont represent your values then no its really not

If you can achieve outreach more than the left then they defeat themselves

Thinking about it... why do first generation immigrants have voting rights anyway?

the truth is just that if you go and ask these people about the 2a.. they just dont really get it. and we just keep letting more in

I'm not sure what the moral argument is

while they vote against it

Not that that's necessarily achievable, but its a good way of looking at things

I mean, there are large swathes of natural born Americans that are against 2A.

Unfortunately

i mean not when comparing them to immigrants

purification by holy fire may be needed

the proportion is no where near the same

They also don't Know the first thing about firearms

all in all, i just want the mass immigration to stop. and for our country to work on assimilating these people into the american way

and the american way is allowing "hate speech" and people to have firearms... sorry lol

some dont agree. but its the truth

What is the American way when what you're protesting against is widely accepted by a large number of Democrats?

plus, if they keep introducing central/south americans, who are by vast majority christian, it may flip on the democrats eventually

im explaining WHY its supported by a larger majority of democrats dude

But only democrats, a large portion of only half the country is not a majority

and it is the american way because its the way we've been for decades

Since the start

the key is breaking the spell thats held on people.

this whole "melting pot" mindset

we are not and never have been a melting pot, that was propaganda

1 and 2A are some of the few things the founding fathers got exactly right

I mean, the degradation of the American way happened long before America had anywhere near as significant of an immigrant population as today.

ah so we should just let it continue to degrade

gotcha

makes sense

@UnScottable You need to approach it from two sides. Yes mass immigration needs to be changed, but you have to provide a convincing moral argument to both sides. Not just your own.

At the same time you have to look at it as an opportunity to teach people about what values are important to keep america a strong and good country. If we don't do that with everyone including hispanics and blacks then we are only defeating ourselves.

im specifically targeting those who value the 1a and 2a

No. I'm saying the source of the loss of the American way is more than immigration.