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2019-12-23 00:23:06 UTC  

Bojo is only good because he’s on the outskirts.

2019-12-23 00:23:23 UTC  

there seems to be an alarming correlation though

2019-12-23 00:23:27 UTC  

Where London is a little more like what London used to be.

2019-12-23 00:23:40 UTC  

like 1 out of how many govt and opposition leaders?

2019-12-23 00:23:44 UTC  

hundreds

2019-12-23 00:23:58 UTC  

although theresa is maidenhead

2019-12-23 00:24:08 UTC  

Tbh I think it’s a self correcting thing

2019-12-23 00:24:38 UTC  

Labour literally became a London centric party 100% last election and look at them. Annihilation.

2019-12-23 00:24:52 UTC  

> Ricky Gervais criticised for transphobic tweets
of course he is <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-12-23 00:25:05 UTC  

like labour still have tons of safe seats outside of london. for example, liverpool and oxford east will probably never go to the tories

2019-12-23 00:27:15 UTC  

Tbh who cares if Liverpool and Oxford East remain Labour until the end of time. The fact remains that safe seats were taken this election and many more have become marginals. They got their worst performance in almost 100 years and probably will find themselves even worse off next election.

2019-12-23 00:27:37 UTC  

that's completely beyond my point

2019-12-23 00:27:54 UTC  

they'll absolutely go right through the floor next election

2019-12-23 00:27:54 UTC  

I imagine Labours true bottom number without a complete death of the party is probably 60-80 seats.

2019-12-23 00:28:23 UTC  

Tbh I wonder if there’s a list of Labours seats sorted by majority.

2019-12-23 00:28:26 UTC  

i could see that happening if rebecca gets in

2019-12-23 00:28:50 UTC  

Tbh I can’t see who doesn’t lose worse than Corbyn next time round.

2019-12-23 00:36:37 UTC  

but who could lose the least badly? the last decade has been excruciatingly slow. we kind of need labour to die quickly

2019-12-23 00:36:54 UTC  

Maybe Jess Phillips

2019-12-23 00:37:02 UTC  

But they are all awful

2019-12-23 00:37:11 UTC  

is there one that isn't anti-britain

2019-12-23 00:37:20 UTC  

if so, they would probably lose the least badly

2019-12-23 00:38:29 UTC  

These things rarely happen fast. Politics is almost always a car crash in slow motion. I think to lose less-badly than they likely will it requires a non-Corbynista. So the real question is which Corbynista is going to sign themselves up for sepuku at the next election.

2019-12-23 00:38:47 UTC  

yeah i mean slower than that

2019-12-23 00:39:10 UTC  

like the coalition govt was slow, then the brexit debacle made everything super slow

2019-12-23 00:39:16 UTC  

and now we're just getting out of this funk

2019-12-23 00:39:56 UTC  

we're now going to see what the "normal pace" is

2019-12-23 00:39:58 UTC  

Boris will make the Government and Conservatives look good by how fast they’ll get stuff done

2019-12-23 00:40:04 UTC  

absolutely

2019-12-23 00:40:17 UTC  

Labour will look so slow in comparison that alone might damage them.

2019-12-23 00:40:41 UTC  

what was the highest majority of the blair government

2019-12-23 00:40:48 UTC  

Also the next election likely hinges on the reforms Boris makes in the first two years of his term.

2019-12-23 00:40:57 UTC  

Blair got something ridiculous

2019-12-23 00:41:04 UTC  

Well over 100

2019-12-23 00:41:30 UTC  

197

2019-12-23 00:41:37 UTC  

in '97

2019-12-23 00:41:40 UTC  

What's the criteria for a marginal? Winning by less than about 10% or?

2019-12-23 00:42:10 UTC  

yes

2019-12-23 00:42:22 UTC  

Blair got a majority of 179

2019-12-23 00:42:36 UTC  

and then the "size" of a marginal (or 'how marginal the marginal is') is determined the size of the majority