Message from @Samaritan™

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2019-12-31 01:44:23 UTC  

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2019-12-31 01:44:32 UTC  

which was much more ideal for transporting materialand building factories

2019-12-31 01:44:35 UTC  

Remember that India and Ghandi literally wanted to deindustrialise and return to agriculture

2019-12-31 01:44:41 UTC  

yup

2019-12-31 01:44:42 UTC  

@ManAnimal england had a bigger pop than the us for a very very long time

2019-12-31 01:44:47 UTC  

and with pop goes production

2019-12-31 01:44:51 UTC  

They would actually be an industrial state if they stayed with the UK

2019-12-31 01:44:57 UTC  

the us only had 1 million americans at the time of the revolution

2019-12-31 01:45:01 UTC  

of course, most of europe still does

2019-12-31 01:45:07 UTC  

britain had many times that

2019-12-31 01:45:13 UTC  

despite being relatively small

2019-12-31 01:45:35 UTC  

most of europe doesnt have coal deposits AND easy sea access though

2019-12-31 01:45:37 UTC  

Issue is the UK is smol

2019-12-31 01:45:38 UTC  

population density is some 30-50% greater in most european countries than in the US

2019-12-31 01:45:43 UTC  

likewise britain used their military to crush their competitors

2019-12-31 01:45:48 UTC  

and force nations to open trade

2019-12-31 01:45:58 UTC  

So TLDR

2019-12-31 01:46:09 UTC  

and the US did less of this

2019-12-31 01:46:14 UTC  

see why they are different?

2019-12-31 01:46:21 UTC  

The British empire was an economic and military power throughout the 19th and early 20th century

2019-12-31 01:46:23 UTC  

Americas population has gone up fucking massively since ww2

2019-12-31 01:46:51 UTC  

by the time the US is the hegemon, they can't exactly go around and FORCE as many countries to give everything to them like the Brits did

2019-12-31 01:47:11 UTC  

even the US give to the Brits at one point

2019-12-31 01:47:13 UTC  

The British Empire was projecting power onto the world stage in a manner that is now comparable to the US at the time

2019-12-31 01:47:24 UTC  

the us did some minor economic imperialism while england did theirs

2019-12-31 01:47:28 UTC  

but it was mostly local

2019-12-31 01:47:28 UTC  

More so actually because of China

2019-12-31 01:47:31 UTC  

they did it in the carribean

2019-12-31 01:47:35 UTC  

and they did it in japan

2019-12-31 01:47:42 UTC  

The issue is we see the way the US projects power but their model is just the British empires but toned down

2019-12-31 01:47:45 UTC  

then of course the spanish american war goes off

2019-12-31 01:47:49 UTC  

so that means the capacity of the US is a MUCH higher concentration because what they gained was through trade rather than conquest

2019-12-31 01:47:54 UTC  

The US secured the entirety of South America and the new world they just didn't do anything with it imao

2019-12-31 01:47:55 UTC  

and all of a sudden the us has colonies and economic enclaves

2019-12-31 01:48:06 UTC  

The British empire projected so much power it was thinly spread against a truly powerful opponent

2019-12-31 01:48:09 UTC  

nah, the US might project power but countries that are our allies, were YOUR slaves

2019-12-31 01:48:24 UTC  

Which makes sense because the US wasn't in a secure situation internally to look outwards at the time

2019-12-31 01:48:35 UTC  

the only reason why mexico isnt ruled by the french is they had the us as an ally

2019-12-31 01:48:37 UTC  

did you know that?

2019-12-31 01:48:46 UTC  

You talking about Germany?

2019-12-31 01:48:47 UTC  

The french could’ve taken the US