I'm only comparing them to the average populace

And WNs do have a good strategy to appear to be in the right, to have as much as possible data as possible to support or appear to support their position.

If average = not dumb, then WN's aren't dumb in my metric

I'm pretty sure they have their ways of cataloging those statistic for ad hoc usage, while their opponents tend not to have. Or, the progressives surely do, and that's called "RationalWiki" (which is about as much a misnomer as possible), but the non-SJWs don't really have such quick reference sources against all the "race science" Alt-Right spews left and right in rather gish-galloping manner.

I've done more than just listen to their talking points

The only time non-SJWs tried to collect a databank of assertions, facts and debunks on AR, it was framed as "doxing server" by the AR and their non-AR supporters.

Yeah, I'm referring to Kraut and Metokur.

I've debated them, dissected and deconstructed their ideas, with the exception of some ideas they hold up

But all those debates were wasted, because the results aren't documented anywhere.

I've argued with members of AR as well, but that's also been a waste of time.

You may consider it a waste, I don't

Ironically I've had far more productive debates with WN's and AR than any SJW ever, so in my mind SJW's are far more out on the spectrum

In terms of how solid their ideas are

Vaush has some gems of ideas. Like communism is more efficient than capitalism. Even though communes are allowed under liberal democracies, they allow people to get rich via capitalism. But communism still totally more efficient than capitalism... you just need to outlaw capitalism to make communism better.

It's really funny how communism's excellence demands that it be the only allowed model for it to be able to compete.

Yeah I agree, it has only failed whenever it was implemented, other times not so much

The debate with Vaush felt like an inquisition

Cannot possibly be why communism fails. Or actually: it has never been tried before.

If you really think about it, family units are communist in nature before the kids turn working age

So either communists are incredibly incompetent at installing communism, or communism simply fails. Hmmmm what is a conclusion that we could draw there hmm.

Well Marx has no idea how communism would come about

It was all theory

And like a good communist, he let others do the work for him

Like a good commie, he never finished his work <:Veemote:501103628883591188>

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@ETBrooD Neither did Hitler.

Yeah and Hitler was a socialist in my book, so the plot holds <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

Well, he's socialist also in my book.

Pinochet on the other hand did nothing wrong.

Socialists actually do have one amazing skill, they're very good at spending all of other people's money

I just love how Vaush doesn't consider proof-of-concept communes to be related to activism and just consider advocacy for communist-friendly policy (i.e outright anti-capitalist, because like he admitted, communism cannot survive side-by-side with capitalism) to be activism.

So, I guess it's just "take my word for it". Commies don't have to prove it in practice.

Even when we've made it legal for (anarcho)commies to form non-profit communes if they like to, they just cannot be arsed to, until capitalism is criminalized.

@ETBrooD go watch Otaku's video on fascists being honest socialist, basically sums up the differences and similarities pretty well

https://youtu.be/O00Xl9GQsoA

One of the few good introductory videos on Fascism

he missed Japan

Japan was a Monarchy

but they did adopt much of Germany's structures at the time

I watched a bit of Sargon vs Vaush