As far as I am concerned, no moral philosophy that isn't concerned with practical application is of much use to anyone.

I beg to differ

The practicality of spreading ideas is well documented

I mean why advocate a position that is impractical and not applicable to real-life?

You never know what comes next, everything starts with an idea

Why not try to find out to what extent an idea is applicable and practical and advocate for that?

We have done that already

I think it's time to continue thinking

I mean always keep thinking, and I can spout non-sensical overblown straight out the top of my dome ideas as well. And in a discussion we can try to reach the reasonable middle-ground, and I can try to make a point with an overly ideal narrative.

But as far as my actual political position goes will always be the one I think would work the best when applied.

I don't know how my idea is overblown non-sensical

I was talking about my own, haha.

My point stands though.

I'm making two arguments

One is that I think all initiation of force is immoral

Thus the government is immoral

I disagree with that.

But I do see where you are coming from.

My second argument is that every move towards liberty is moral, thus we should increase liberty

Like poverty, I think the application of force is inherit to our species.

How would you define liberty?

Liberty is when another person doesn't infringe on your pursuits (that must abide by the same principle)

I often use the word "human thriving" which is essentially when a human being feels he is in the right time, at the right place, doing the right things. I suppose my moral philosophy would be to attempt to maximize that.

A feels ideology?

Yes, I'm not ashamed of that.

I think people should have good lives and feel good about them.

Well you're lucky I'm not in the mood to mock people right now 😛

I think happiness is overrated

I agree.

And I'm not really arguing for happiness.

I'm arguing for meaning, I suppose. Having something to work towards.

Well that could be an interesting conversation but I'll have you know I'm an absurdist

I think meaning in a sense is achieved through competence. Although I have no knowledge of any higher meaning, I think that it is up to us to find a meaning in the life around us and I think we do that better when we are part of a community.

How do you know what needs you need to fill when you do not know the needs of your local markets?

Life, as far as I am concerned, is about tending to the people around you.

As an absurdist my approach to meaning is that it can only be created, not discoverd, because it doesn't exist. A bit like imagining a story that never actually happened.

Basically everyone can "find" their own meaning in life if they so want, but they can also let others choose a meaning for them. However, meaning cannot be imposed on anyone, as that would contradict the entire philosophy.

I suppose I agree.

Well that was easy <:Veemote:501103628883591188>

Short conversation

Yeah, I'm not a moral absolutist, although there are morals I think should be held in high regard I realize that it is folly to give powers to an authority and not expect it to be used against your cause.