Message from @EmoGazebo

Discord ID: 653610514638831676


2019-12-09 14:48:14 UTC  

My pleasure.

2019-12-09 14:48:31 UTC  

Not only are Hispanics considered white alot of the time

2019-12-09 14:48:46 UTC  

But police and courts commonly put the wrong race down

2019-12-09 14:49:02 UTC  

Wait, that makes no sense

2019-12-09 14:49:46 UTC  

They separate between whites and blacks, and then between hispanics and others

2019-12-09 14:50:24 UTC  

Are you complaining?

2019-12-09 14:50:29 UTC  

Yes, it's unreadable

2019-12-09 14:50:49 UTC  

I prefer hispanics separate from whites.

2019-12-09 14:51:08 UTC  

Soon, they'll stop recording race altogether because offensive patriarchy white supremacy bullshit

2019-12-09 14:51:14 UTC  

I prefer clear scientific separations

2019-12-09 14:51:53 UTC  

@Jeremy > I prefer hispanics separate from whites

Wow, something we agree on <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-12-09 14:52:03 UTC  

Whites are not a racial monolith, so why are they treated as a monolith, but hispanics are treated as an ethnic monolith, that table is manipulative

2019-12-09 14:52:04 UTC  

They already are, @Goddess Tyche...

2019-12-09 14:52:51 UTC  

I believe the reasons are self-evident.

2019-12-09 14:53:00 UTC  

Their communities are separate from ours.

2019-12-09 14:53:21 UTC  

They have separate categories but that doesn't mean that people are being labelled or sorted properly

2019-12-09 14:53:33 UTC  

You assume its a functional system

2019-12-09 14:53:49 UTC  

Yeah the labels don't make any scientific sense, they're intersecting all sorts of groups and then separating them elsewhere.

2019-12-09 14:54:34 UTC  

It must be either-or. Either they look at broad generalizations of groups, or they don't.

2019-12-09 14:54:46 UTC  

Categorically the method must be the same across the board, or else it's manipulative.

2019-12-09 14:54:50 UTC  

Hispanics and light skinned blacks often get recorded as white as well.

2019-12-09 14:55:33 UTC  

Interesting to see the FBI has been infiltrated with SJW nonsense, too

2019-12-09 14:56:14 UTC  

What hasn't been at this point?

2019-12-09 14:56:39 UTC  

The fbi gathers the data they don't create it

2019-12-09 14:56:46 UTC  

Like I said, only a matter of time before race stats go unrecorded due to some bullshit excuse.

2019-12-09 14:56:50 UTC  

Police and courts create the data

2019-12-09 14:57:05 UTC  

Or just unreported on.

2019-12-09 14:58:03 UTC  

How much you wanna bet there are white-skinned African Americans in that list who are recorded as "white"

2019-12-09 14:58:06 UTC  

The majority of which is attained via their identification records, whether government-issued identification, or birth records if they're absent. There's many ways they pool accurate records.

2019-12-09 14:58:35 UTC  

Yeah, and if it's unscientific it must be thrown out for being useless

2019-12-09 15:01:01 UTC  
2019-12-09 15:06:13 UTC  

@ETBrooD What you're describing then is voluntaryism, not Nationalism

2019-12-09 15:06:47 UTC  

The closest thing that comes to it is National Anarchism, which still doesn't respect Lockean concept of property rights

2019-12-09 15:07:01 UTC  

So again, Nationalism is inherently collective

2019-12-09 15:12:56 UTC  

Involuntary actions are not inherent within nationalism, they're inherent within authoritarianism.

2019-12-09 15:13:22 UTC  

> identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

2019-12-09 15:13:45 UTC  

Doesn't mean it must be enforced

2019-12-09 15:14:04 UTC  

> support for its interests

2019-12-09 15:14:20 UTC  

Not the individual's interests, but the collectives' interest

2019-12-09 15:14:51 UTC  

That's an argument for collectivism being authoritarian, not for nationalism being authoritarian.