Message from @Machinimal

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2019-12-13 03:47:09 UTC  

All of the good isekai anime have focused on a smaller, extreme aspect
Grimgar went very dark and deep into the reality of death and losing people
Konosuba went parody and examined the quirks of arbitrary systems and bad party members
Re: Zero analyzed the responsibility of entering a real alternative world and the reality of a save-point mechanic
Overlord studies sociopathic behavior, power-fantasy, villain players, social and hierarchical expectations and so on

2019-12-13 03:47:56 UTC  

Agreed.

2019-12-13 03:48:01 UTC  

SAO covers kind of _all_ of them down the sort of archetypal 'im in a video game and if you die, yoi die for real' route
However, it does it _badly_

2019-12-13 03:48:21 UTC  

don't forget log horizon

2019-12-13 03:48:22 UTC  

It basically drops it in favor of power fantasy after episode, like

2019-12-13 03:48:25 UTC  

5 or 6

2019-12-13 03:48:30 UTC  

SAO is the worst

2019-12-13 03:48:32 UTC  

I have not watched log horizon

2019-12-13 03:48:44 UTC  

its like more of a traditional mmorpg

2019-12-13 03:48:55 UTC  

Ah

2019-12-13 03:49:07 UTC  

its fairly good actually

2019-12-13 03:49:11 UTC  

there is zero payoff

2019-12-13 03:49:13 UTC  

if a bit slow at times

2019-12-13 03:49:20 UTC  

>watching isekai anime <:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-12-13 03:49:40 UTC  

overpowered main character is also butchered with SAO

2019-12-13 03:49:42 UTC  

Yeah
I think the premise is what fundamentally draws people to SAO
The _premise_ is the _one thing_ that SAO nailed

2019-12-13 03:49:51 UTC  

see why i don't get is

2019-12-13 03:49:57 UTC  

why bother making it isekai\

2019-12-13 03:50:06 UTC  

like why not taking the setting as-is

2019-12-13 03:50:18 UTC  

its a method of introducing the world

2019-12-13 03:50:19 UTC  

and have the MC be someone who understands "the game" as it were

2019-12-13 03:50:41 UTC  

It set it up so well in the first episode that many people initially _thought_ it was good for a while
Until we looked back and realized its problems were telegraphed from the first episode

2019-12-13 03:50:41 UTC  

how would the game 'world' be introduced if the character is already a pro?

2019-12-13 03:50:50 UTC  

there is some pretty decent korean isekai's out there

2019-12-13 03:51:02 UTC  

Jo Swinson lost her seat. YES!

2019-12-13 03:51:24 UTC  

I really want to see a well-done vanilla isekai one day

2019-12-13 03:51:34 UTC  

Berserk is best overpowered main

2019-12-13 03:52:17 UTC  

Hopefully all of the niche and deconstructive and subversive ones will help to refine the genre to aid in that becoming a realized

2019-12-13 03:52:19 UTC  

and best overall story

2019-12-13 03:53:39 UTC  

Berserk is
I have only watched/read _one_ other piece of Japanese media that I consider to be even a candidate to be in the same _league_ as Berserk

2019-12-13 03:53:44 UTC  

fuck off with the anime

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/654893694448697344/kowalski-1.gif

2019-12-13 03:53:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/654893756197371904/1576209126095s.png

2019-12-13 03:54:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/654893793048395776/e36e925a-b828-4f1e-b832-481dfe0120d8.mp4

2019-12-13 03:54:10 UTC  

@Nova says the fucking weeb

2019-12-13 03:54:17 UTC  

heres a weeb meme then

2019-12-13 03:54:20 UTC  

Berserk has great dialog on Nietzsche, belief, meaning and Dostoevsky

edgy

af

2019-12-13 03:54:33 UTC