which is... just as bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580709234451283978/654890157576814612/c.mp4

https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1205325619225124864

While I like .hack, I found sign to be too slow and irritating to get far into

all of its kinda trash though but thats more of its time period and its source

nothing ever happens in .hack

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CON is now 190

The Kite arc (infection-quarantine games and the manga/novels following the same arc) were good, as was the _manga_ Legend of the Twilight (_not_ the anime)
Everything else is a bit trash, yeah

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All of the good isekai anime have focused on a smaller, extreme aspect
Grimgar went very dark and deep into the reality of death and losing people
Konosuba went parody and examined the quirks of arbitrary systems and bad party members
Re: Zero analyzed the responsibility of entering a real alternative world and the reality of a save-point mechanic
Overlord studies sociopathic behavior, power-fantasy, villain players, social and hierarchical expectations and so on

Agreed.

SAO covers kind of _all_ of them down the sort of archetypal 'im in a video game and if you die, yoi die for real' route
However, it does it _badly_

don't forget log horizon

It basically drops it in favor of power fantasy after episode, like

5 or 6

SAO is the worst

I have not watched log horizon

its like more of a traditional mmorpg

Ah

its fairly good actually

there is zero payoff

if a bit slow at times

>watching isekai anime <:thunk:462282216467333140>

overpowered main character is also butchered with SAO

Yeah
I think the premise is what fundamentally draws people to SAO
The _premise_ is the _one thing_ that SAO nailed

see why i don't get is

why bother making it isekai\

like why not taking the setting as-is

its a method of introducing the world

and have the MC be someone who understands "the game" as it were

It set it up so well in the first episode that many people initially _thought_ it was good for a while
Until we looked back and realized its problems were telegraphed from the first episode

how would the game 'world' be introduced if the character is already a pro?

there is some pretty decent korean isekai's out there

Jo Swinson lost her seat. YES!

I really want to see a well-done vanilla isekai one day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrMawW5J6NU

Berserk is best overpowered main

Hopefully all of the niche and deconstructive and subversive ones will help to refine the genre to aid in that becoming a realized