And I assume you have a source for such a claim?

UN projections for future population growth

The carrying capacity will change with the population, Africans and Indians will destroy the planet and go over carrying capacity before Europeans or East Asians do

plus the countries with the highest birth rates are in Africa so you dont have to be a genius to see where most of the worlds population growth is coming from

The only reason we have the material ability for this carrying capacity is global trade, high IQ people working on very complex stuff. Etc

People being conscientious and adding value

While it's true that African countries are experiencing the fastest growth rates, bear in mind these numbers are typically <50 Million per country.

It’s all very easy for this kind a machine to fall apart

They pale in comparison to the US, Europe, and China.

growth in Europe and the US is driven almost entirely from third world immigration

or to some extent second world migration

When you have a low population to begin with, you're naturally going to see the highest *percentages* of growth occurring in these countries.

if you count Latin America

Latin America has a stable birth rate

I thought we were talking child per person

Africa nations are exploding in population, many of them have doubled there population in the last 30 years

Average child per person

even countries like Pakistan

which have close to 200 Million people

doubled their population in only 30ish years

When countries like Niger are expected to have a 53.2% growth to 34 million by 2030, it's really a drop in the bucket compared to China's projection of 1.45 Billion by 2030.

For the west it isn't though, China is Stable and Modern, Niger is a shithole where most people want to migrate

Man...i miss Assassins Creed 2. Fucking great to roam around Florence and Venice and taking in all the Renaissance atmosphere

Sure, but to suggest countries just discovering stability are going to be "over-capacity" before Europeans and East Asians is simply wrong.

Niger doesn’t have the same carrying capacity as China does. It’s mostly desert and their people are dumb, so they won’t be building high civilization to deal with the population boom.

With sizable oil reserves and gold/coal resources, they have plenty of natural resources to sustain growth.

again, I'm not talking about if they *can* sustain growth, I'm talking about if it's a good thing

Hmm

Maybe if they don’t fall into a civil war they can

@snake Niger =/= Wakanda

and Africa going from 1 Billion to 3 Billion people in 100 years isn't a good thing lmao

I would argue it's a good thing. They have a micro-population compared to the rest of the world, with plentiful resources that can be traded with 1st world countries.

Africa is also more violent

Well yeah, but not so much in the past decade compared to the past century.

I mean I’m just skeptical that Africa will be able to handle

Stability breeds population growth. As their governments modernize, you'll see natural growth as a result.

thats not really true though is it, Afganistan is a war zone and it's nearly doubled its population in 20 years

You can have population growth without stability, but stability helps.

Honestly, this is like scrutinizing a sapling in a forest. And sure, Afghanistan has doubled their population in the past 20 years, but that's largely due to immigration

Their growth rate is on-par with most under-developed nations

@Mersenne this conversation does seem pretty pointless to be fair, so I'mma go back to sleep