Message from @Riley

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2019-09-12 14:54:41 UTC  

In the past 200 years only

2019-09-12 14:54:49 UTC  

hmm

2019-09-12 14:54:58 UTC  

true

2019-09-12 14:55:07 UTC  

even with the natives in the US

2019-09-12 14:55:15 UTC  

we essentially forced them to convert

2019-09-12 14:55:20 UTC  

and this was in the 1800s

2019-09-12 14:55:25 UTC  

And that is mostly because we put social over religion in modern europe since the enlightenment

2019-09-12 14:55:52 UTC  

hopefully these values spread to the middle east

2019-09-12 14:56:01 UTC  

i kinda have hope for ba'athism

2019-09-12 14:56:14 UTC  

because it values secularism and progress

2019-09-12 14:56:33 UTC  

Good

2019-09-12 15:19:10 UTC  

@Riley christianity provides axioms, if axioms are not scientific, science is not scientific. Religion shares the required axioms for science. You completely ignore the scholastic school rejected the God of the Gaps arguments in total.

2019-09-12 15:19:31 UTC  

You don't seem to know the history of Catholic intellectuals

2019-09-12 15:34:44 UTC  

ok what axioms does Christianity provide

2019-09-12 15:34:47 UTC  
2019-09-12 15:51:11 UTC  

What axioms does Christianity provide that aren't based in pre christian logic

2019-09-12 15:51:15 UTC  

Specifically

2019-09-12 16:06:46 UTC  

@Riley the PoSR, and realism

2019-09-12 16:07:53 UTC  

I'm not saying Christianity is the sole source of axioms, I'm saying It shares axioms, and thus can't be again science

2019-09-12 16:11:33 UTC  

ok whats PoSR

2019-09-12 16:11:34 UTC  

lol

2019-09-12 16:13:59 UTC  

Principle of sufficient reason

2019-09-12 16:20:15 UTC  

ok did Christianity come to its conclusions scientifically?

2019-09-12 16:20:27 UTC  

did it scientifically demonstrate that God is the creator of the universe

2019-09-12 16:43:17 UTC  

Irrelevant to the conversation

2019-09-12 16:43:24 UTC  

We are talking about shared axioms

2019-09-12 17:05:58 UTC  

I don't see how that matters

2019-09-12 17:33:27 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖

What is your opinion on the Catholic Church surpressing scientific research such as galleio and old Earth? Are these simply historical misinterpretations or are they actively working against science? Explain

2019-09-12 17:33:58 UTC  

take a guess

2019-09-12 17:35:01 UTC  

Kinda retarded

2019-09-12 17:35:44 UTC  

lmao @ fighting against science you deem "heretical"

2019-09-12 17:37:19 UTC  

here in the US there are still a shitton of creatoinists

2019-09-12 17:37:21 UTC  

and let me tell you

2019-09-12 17:37:26 UTC  

As a Protestant - you won’t find many as opposed to the institution of the Roman Catholic Church as myself. I do think however there are many myths and misunderstandings surrounding the issue of Galileo and it’s clear that the Catholic Church was historically pro-scientific institution. The case has since been used by people opposed to the RCC as some lazy point of argument, rather than targeting more legitimate causes for criticism (of which there are many)

2019-09-12 17:37:28 UTC  

they are some of the dumbest people ive ever met

2019-09-12 17:38:07 UTC  

ok did the church not ban Galileo's books

2019-09-12 17:38:21 UTC  

It doesn't matter the shape of the Earth lol

2019-09-12 17:38:34 UTC  

Knowledge for the sake of knowledge is cringe

2019-09-12 17:38:42 UTC  

wat

2019-09-12 17:38:54 UTC  

nobody is talking about the shape of the Earth

2019-09-12 17:39:03 UTC  

Oh fuck wrong scientist