their entire reasoning is shit

lmao @ when they lose an argument they start being edgy

its borderline incoherent
''i want to return to tradition and monarchy but i also want to have a free market so that corporate power can undermine the government leading back to the situation i started in'' @Riley

@Deleted User bruh read anything NRx before trying to form an opinion please

That's literally the NRx critique of conservatism

NRx is pretty much just a power analysis, conclusions follow from that, and vary widely

so its larping as reverse marxism?

It's based on a reactionary ontology rather than this contradictory, ahistorical liberal enlightenment garbage. Many nrx figures were libertarians who realized this. I mean the fascists in ww2 were "reverse marxists" in the way that they were hegelian as well, but Hegel is perhaps the most influential figure in political philosophy now that it's dumb to call any of his influence marxist.

Many nrx are fascist, so I don't see that as a relevant critique

i didnt mean that they were reverse marxists in the way that they are opposite to marxists
i meant it in the sense that marxists also believe in a form of historical analysis as the basis of their ideology, however, theirs is revolutionary rather that reactionary @Eoppa

Well yes, I'm aware, that's why I said calling all of Hegel's influence Marxist is basically calling all political philosophy Marxist

some nrx are fascist
however nrx is largely pro capital whereas fascism is largely anti capital

there is a continuum ig

I'll respond to this when I get back, you are right in a way, but that's not the whole picture

What is NRX?

Neoreaction

Spawned from Moldbug

Sounds gay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment @The Desert Fox V this basically

I'll debate it when I can

Reactionaries are gay

No u

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reactionary/revolutionary dichotomy is context dependent tbh

Monarchy is a flawed system and stuff like free healthcare and workers' rights are good.

So reaction is bad.

Reactionaries ARE gay

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-study/end-of-the-world/

My god

Aside for war, everything else got *better* since 1900

@The Desert Fox V monarchy is the wrong term I think, nrx are absolutists, in that power ought to be ordered absolutely to avoid *imperium in imperio*

absolute power is dangerous. What's to stop the man with such power from using it to overthrow the very same system? @Eoppa

better constitutional dictators

That's what the Cathedral is, one man has no power besides the institutions that support him. A constitution is just an idea that has the support of the institutions. You ought to build institutions that support you, rather than elect a leader and hope that means more in terms of intergenerational power than finance, academia, media, education, etc

I have no expertise by any means in the literature here, because I don't have as much of an interest in this than other things

@Eoppa what do you mean by "one man has no power besides the institutions that support him"? What would that look like?

Idk what's unclear about that, for example in the French Revolution, King Louis lost support of the capitalists and middle class because those people had no hierarchical power. That financial machine churned out propaganda and weapons and caused a revolution.

LOL the dark enlightenment is meme tier

You guys know anything about TFP Student Action?

@Riley go be a brainlet somewhere else

ur mom