"We see things in the world that vary in degrees of goodness, truth, nobility, etc. For example, well-drawn circles are better than poorly drawn ones, healthy animals are better than sick animals. Moreover, some substances are better than others, since living things are better than non-living things, and animals are better than plants, in testimony of which no one would choose to lose their senses for the sake of having the longevity of a tree. But judging something as being "more" or "less" implies some standard against which it is being judged. For example in a room full of people of varying heights, at least one must be tallest. Therefore, there is something which is best and most true, and most a being, etc. Aquinas then adds the premise: what is most in a genus is the cause of all else in that genus. From this he deduces that there exists some most-good being which causes goodness in all else, and this everyone understands to be God."

why are well-drawn circles better than poorly drawn ones

there is no objective "better"

You just said a poorly drawn circle, you admit yourself it's worse

and once again

Unless you imply there is no difference between a perfect and imperfect circle

how did he determine that this is god

like bruh

We judge better and worse

Against what

Implying there must be something absolutely best/good

As a standard

they are relative to other things in our enviroment

not really

lets go back to circles

we determine whether or not a circle is good by comparing it to our idea of a perfect circle

so we have an idea of a perfect circle

however, there are no perfect circles in nature

so just because we have a concept of ideal or perfection

doesnt mean it exists

Where does this idea of a perfect circle come from?

What standard says a circle can even be perfect

What says the entire concept of perfection even exists

the idea of a perfect circle comes from what we know about circles. We know that circles have no edges, therefore the most circular object possible would have no...shit how do i say it

wait hold that thought

i need to go

we will continue later

Same

if you don't get what im saying, ill try to explain it better later

I might say this is a bastardization of the argument, although this isn't my most well versed argument

I down have time to talk anyways tho

So ponder me calling you all retards for the time being

Oj Hrvatska zemljo mila sviče danak tvoje

Sad ustaška hrabra vojska za te bije boj

Aww

epic

A *perfect circle* is a mathematical construction

Real life circles roughly obey mathematical theorems that were created with more rigidly defined perfect circles

If you believe in Jesus Christ put this on 5 discord server. Don't just ignore this because it says in the Holy Bible if you deny him, he will deny you in front of his son in the gates of paradise. This is the simplest test. If you love Jesus Christ and you are not ashamed of it, copy and paste it on 5 discord server

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