Message from @Maksim

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2019-11-18 18:31:36 UTC  

The Zero Effect

2019-11-18 18:32:02 UTC  

you must be thinking of heisenbergs uncertainty principle

2019-11-18 18:32:04 UTC  

"One of the oddest predictions of quantum theory – that a system can't change while you're watching it – has been confirmed in an experiment by Cornell physicists."

2019-11-18 18:32:35 UTC  

ΔxΔp ≥ (ℏ/2)

2019-11-18 18:32:46 UTC  

I'm not a mathmatician

2019-11-18 18:32:53 UTC  

Anyways back to 5 says

2019-11-18 18:33:00 UTC  

o

2019-11-18 18:33:02 UTC  

@The Desert Fox V take over I need to go to class

2019-11-18 18:33:06 UTC  

<:ket:586968975619915779>

2019-11-18 18:34:09 UTC  

"We see things in the world that vary in degrees of goodness, truth, nobility, etc. For example, well-drawn circles are better than poorly drawn ones, healthy animals are better than sick animals. Moreover, some substances are better than others, since living things are better than non-living things, and animals are better than plants, in testimony of which no one would choose to lose their senses for the sake of having the longevity of a tree. But judging something as being "more" or "less" implies some standard against which it is being judged. For example in a room full of people of varying heights, at least one must be tallest. Therefore, there is something which is best and most true, and most a being, etc. Aquinas then adds the premise: what is most in a genus is the cause of all else in that genus. From this he deduces that there exists some most-good being which causes goodness in all else, and this everyone understands to be God."

2019-11-18 18:34:51 UTC  

why are well-drawn circles better than poorly drawn ones

2019-11-18 18:35:01 UTC  

there is no objective "better"

2019-11-18 18:35:20 UTC  

You just said a poorly drawn circle, you admit yourself it's worse

2019-11-18 18:35:42 UTC  

and once again

2019-11-18 18:35:47 UTC  

Unless you imply there is no difference between a perfect and imperfect circle

2019-11-18 18:35:47 UTC  

how did he determine that this is god

2019-11-18 18:35:50 UTC  

like bruh

2019-11-18 18:36:08 UTC  

We judge better and worse

2019-11-18 18:36:11 UTC  

Against what

2019-11-18 18:36:20 UTC  

Implying there must be something absolutely best/good

2019-11-18 18:36:21 UTC  

As a standard

2019-11-18 18:36:22 UTC  

they are relative to other things in our enviroment

2019-11-18 18:36:24 UTC  

not really

2019-11-18 18:36:54 UTC  

lets go back to circles

2019-11-18 18:37:10 UTC  

we determine whether or not a circle is good by comparing it to our idea of a perfect circle

2019-11-18 18:37:15 UTC  

so we have an idea of a perfect circle

2019-11-18 18:37:23 UTC  

however, there are no perfect circles in nature

2019-11-18 18:37:30 UTC  

so just because we have a concept of ideal or perfection

2019-11-18 18:37:33 UTC  

doesnt mean it exists

2019-11-18 18:38:41 UTC  

Where does this idea of a perfect circle come from?

2019-11-18 18:38:54 UTC  

What standard says a circle can even be perfect

2019-11-18 18:39:13 UTC  

What says the entire concept of perfection even exists

2019-11-18 18:40:39 UTC  

the idea of a perfect circle comes from what we know about circles. We know that circles have no edges, therefore the most circular object possible would have no...shit how do i say it

2019-11-18 18:40:56 UTC  

wait hold that thought

2019-11-18 18:40:59 UTC  

i need to go

2019-11-18 18:41:03 UTC  

we will continue later

2019-11-18 18:41:14 UTC  

Same

2019-11-18 18:41:15 UTC  

if you don't get what im saying, ill try to explain it better later

2019-11-18 23:34:56 UTC  

I might say this is a bastardization of the argument, although this isn't my most well versed argument

2019-11-18 23:35:10 UTC  

I down have time to talk anyways tho

2019-11-18 23:35:19 UTC  

So ponder me calling you all retards for the time being