Message from @Maksim

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2019-12-16 18:29:11 UTC  

Proverbs 28:8

2019-12-16 18:29:12 UTC  

2019-12-16 19:00:19 UTC  
2019-12-16 19:43:12 UTC  

Religion should have no involvement in the government, nor influence it.

2019-12-16 19:44:03 UTC  

Religion, most of the times, promotes ethical actions and activities, but the Government has to take unethical actions in order for the nation to go forward.

2019-12-16 19:44:54 UTC  

Of course Governments can decide to, for example, cut taxation for Churches and such, but no Church should have involvement in the Government.

2019-12-16 19:45:07 UTC  

Cringe take

2019-12-16 19:45:26 UTC  

ok boomer

2019-12-16 20:06:11 UTC  

im fine with a palamentarian government but it needs to be much more direct in its democracy like how it is now its shit

2019-12-16 20:06:58 UTC  

^

2019-12-16 20:07:30 UTC  

Bible promotes monarchy, but with certain freedoms for the people

2019-12-16 20:07:38 UTC  

So probably constitutional divine monarchy?

2019-12-16 20:08:03 UTC  

really?

2019-12-16 20:08:06 UTC  

in what way?

2019-12-16 20:08:35 UTC  

i mean its not the worst its just really risky

2019-12-16 20:09:48 UTC  

The Bible was written so many centuries ago. The world hadn't seen any just democracy. Only the Athenian Democracy, which wasn't that much of a democracy if you think about it.
The more the time passes, the more contemporary religions should become. Otherwise, at a point, religions will become too irrelevant and lose their followers.

2019-12-16 20:10:15 UTC  

>trying to argue what a religion says without being part of that religion

2019-12-16 20:10:27 UTC  

I've read about the religion well enough.

2019-12-16 20:10:28 UTC  

I'm sure you will do a good job of interpreting scripture

2019-12-16 20:10:35 UTC  

I was part of the religion up until recently.

2019-12-16 20:10:42 UTC  

I'm talking about what system of Government the Bible promotes

2019-12-16 20:10:42 UTC  

Two years ago I was an Orthodox Christian.

2019-12-16 20:10:44 UTC  

Not what I want

2019-12-16 20:10:50 UTC  

There's a difference

2019-12-16 20:11:02 UTC  

I didn't say that you said what you want.

2019-12-16 20:11:19 UTC  

I said that even if the Bible promotes Monarchism, we shouldn't follow it

2019-12-16 20:11:22 UTC  

Bible says leaders are instituted by God

2019-12-16 20:11:27 UTC  

Hence divine monarchy

2019-12-16 20:11:55 UTC  

And that was said more than a millennium ago.

2019-12-16 20:12:17 UTC  

Monarchism has collapsed today, and it doesn't function correctly in this modern world.

2019-12-16 20:12:23 UTC  

Following it would lead to a disaster.

2019-12-16 20:13:22 UTC  

damn

2019-12-16 20:20:23 UTC  

Implying we care about the "modern world"

2019-12-16 20:20:36 UTC  

I think some dude once said like revolt against it or smth

2019-12-16 20:20:47 UTC  

Like an old profile picture of mine or something

2019-12-16 20:21:44 UTC  

Not caring about the modern world means that you won't bother to revolt against it.

2019-12-16 20:22:01 UTC  

@Eoppa what do you mean

2019-12-16 20:22:04 UTC  

No, because I care about other things

2019-12-16 20:22:13 UTC  

And I'll gladly revolt to get other things in power

2019-12-16 20:22:44 UTC  

@Ater Votum what specifically? I despise modernism and the state of the modern world

2019-12-16 20:23:13 UTC  

Revolting against something, means you care about it, and you want to change it.