Message from @Zeratul

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2019-06-13 00:01:25 UTC  

It's still so sad that the 2013 revolution went as it did. It had purpose at first, but then got high jacked by LARPing nazis

2019-06-13 00:06:33 UTC  

yeah

2019-06-13 00:06:41 UTC  

you're alright, moskal

2019-06-13 00:10:19 UTC  

The whole irony of Ukrainian nationalism is that it has no completely sovereign culture to rest on. Ukrainian culture is tied to the Russian one as much as the other way round. What рушники and культ села is all that it can offer, that is in a way sovereign? Anything beyond that?
Ukrainian nationalists either have to borrow heavily from the Russian culture, rebranding symbols as something else. Or just try to act like German soldiers in uniform, signs and flags.
Why not embrace the connection that had developed over a millennium? There are no "russian writers" or "ukranian painters" or "belorussian sculptors". We are one, we get lost when we separate. All of us experience struggles, but if we come together, we can change our broken fate that has hurt us since 1991

2019-06-13 00:12:46 UTC  

This is my outlook on the whole issue

2019-06-13 00:15:26 UTC  

there were Ukrainians though

2019-06-13 00:15:37 UTC  

especially ones that contributed a lot to russian culture

2019-06-13 00:15:39 UTC  

such as

2019-06-13 00:15:43 UTC  

maxim berezovsky

2019-06-13 00:16:04 UTC  

who wrote so many liturgy chants

2019-06-13 00:16:14 UTC  

and songs

2019-06-14 21:53:53 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

- Are people ultimately divided more by class than by nationality?

2019-06-14 21:54:25 UTC  

no

2019-06-14 21:54:29 UTC  

Yes

2019-06-14 21:54:32 UTC  

inside a country by class, outside by nationality so both ?

2019-06-14 21:54:47 UTC  

a poor person from like

2019-06-14 21:54:51 UTC  

russia

2019-06-14 21:55:00 UTC  

this question is gay

2019-06-14 21:55:04 UTC  

isn't as close to a poor person from lets say

2019-06-14 21:55:05 UTC  

@CUNT If you took 2 people of the same nationality but once was rich and one was poor, would they relate more than 2 poor people from different countries?

2019-06-14 21:55:05 UTC  

Yes

2019-06-14 21:55:07 UTC  

japan

2019-06-14 21:55:09 UTC  

@Deleted User no they aren't, belive it or not we probably won't have any commies

2019-06-14 21:55:17 UTC  

as a rich person from japan is

2019-06-14 21:55:29 UTC  

@Deleted User anon is NAZBOL

2019-06-14 21:55:34 UTC  

poor people have less language skills to start with, they will relate more to their own

2019-06-14 21:55:37 UTC  

In the view of the U.S and Europe, absolutely

2019-06-14 21:55:59 UTC  

Class is more dividing than nationality

2019-06-14 21:56:04 UTC  

no

2019-06-14 21:56:06 UTC  

its not

2019-06-14 21:56:08 UTC  

@Deleted User but the question is asking if we belive in the main values of communism

2019-06-14 21:56:30 UTC  

I don't see why we would like germans more then our own poor

2019-06-14 22:00:17 UTC  

If we fixed the insane class division in european and n.american nations

2019-06-14 22:00:26 UTC  

Nationalism would be significantly stronger

2019-06-14 22:05:42 UTC  

As always it depends

2019-06-14 22:06:01 UTC  

there are no rich and poor

2019-06-14 22:06:06 UTC  

2 nationalities can be similar

2019-06-14 22:06:16 UTC  

So in that case, class

2019-06-14 22:06:23 UTC  

Though that isn't always

2019-06-14 22:06:46 UTC  

@Deleted User there are no poor people in russia because its communist

2019-06-14 22:09:43 UTC  

what