Message from @Present Distributist

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2019-11-02 21:05:35 UTC  

So yea

2019-11-02 21:05:56 UTC  

@Orson Krennic Monopolies can stifle free markets. It’s like a massive oak tree preventing anything from growing under it. Sometimes the government needs to cut it down and let the rest of the market grow.

2019-11-02 21:06:44 UTC  

Regardless if it grew on its own or if the government planted it.

2019-11-02 21:06:58 UTC  

Natural monopolies operate differently

2019-11-02 21:07:19 UTC  

It's like a local cable company

2019-11-02 21:07:22 UTC  

Not to mention if it falls by itself very bad things can happen like the market collapsing and prices skyrocketing because supply can’t meet demand.

2019-11-02 21:07:24 UTC  

That's a natural monopoly

2019-11-02 21:07:56 UTC  

Because the operating costs of operating another cable company are too high

2019-11-02 21:08:33 UTC  

@Orson Krennic Local cable companies aren’t good. It stifles competition which takes away much of the incentive to provide good deals and better technology.

2019-11-02 21:08:47 UTC  

Natural monoplies aren't necessarily bad

2019-11-02 21:08:56 UTC  

They provide services at a low cost to consumers

2019-11-02 21:09:14 UTC  

What’s keeping them from raising the cost?

2019-11-02 21:10:09 UTC  

It would be competition, but they don’t have any because the startup costs aren’t worth the profit. @Orson Krennic

2019-11-02 21:12:31 UTC  

The only alternative I see is regulation, local or otherwise.

2019-11-02 21:33:33 UTC  

@DrRisen if they did raise costs then it would be economically profitable for a new company to start up

2019-11-02 21:33:50 UTC  

But if they offer good service and keep their prices stable then there's no profitability

2019-11-02 21:39:58 UTC  

@Orson Krennic If a new company starts up its economically feasible for the already established company to temporarily lower their prices far enough that the startup, which will have a smaller customer base and ergo need a higher price line to stay in business, will be forced to sell or go bankrupt, then the monopoly can raise its prices right back up.

2019-11-02 21:40:25 UTC  

Consumer confidence

2019-11-02 21:40:32 UTC  

You're ignoring the opinions of the consumers

2019-11-02 21:40:36 UTC  

Sure they can do that

2019-11-02 21:40:46 UTC  

Monopolies are ecvil

2019-11-02 21:40:48 UTC  

But at that point public opinion would be negative towards the company

2019-11-02 21:41:07 UTC  

And what will that do, make them stop needing phones?

2019-11-02 21:41:23 UTC  

No, they'll be less apt to stay with the company overcharging

2019-11-02 21:41:29 UTC  

Or they'll find a substitute

2019-11-02 21:41:35 UTC  

Which consumers are very good at doing

2019-11-02 21:41:44 UTC  

monopolies will attempt to entrench themselves by using temporary charging reductions

2019-11-02 21:41:52 UTC  

They don’t have an alternative option when there’s no other companies around.

2019-11-02 21:44:25 UTC  

In this scenario the likely outcome would be that another cable service would expand into the area to meet the demand of the consumers

2019-11-02 21:45:22 UTC  

But with startup costs and a smaller initial customer base for the opposing company the monopolized company can simply discount their prices to a point at which the other company cannot keep their doors open in the area. @Orson Krennic

2019-11-02 21:45:52 UTC  

But then operating costs for the first company would be greater because they're not bringing in enough revenue to pay for them

2019-11-02 21:46:21 UTC  

@Orson Krennic Clarified. Meant to refer to the incoming company for startup and operations cost.

2019-11-02 21:47:11 UTC  

If they keep going through a cyclical price system, the consumers would have no incentive to stay with them, so when another company did come into the area the consumers would switch

2019-11-02 21:47:20 UTC  

@DrRisen that's short term

2019-11-02 21:47:29 UTC  

Long term, it would be a good investment for the incoming company

2019-11-02 21:47:39 UTC  

Especially if they're already established

2019-11-02 21:48:25 UTC  

@Orson Krennic Switching takes time, especially if the initial company had an exclusivity clause in place.

2019-11-02 21:48:45 UTC  

Time that the startup doesn’t have.

2019-11-02 21:48:50 UTC  

Companies change prices all the time without losing public support

2019-11-02 21:49:02 UTC  

It’s a stamina game, and the home field team will always have more of it.

2019-11-02 21:49:15 UTC  

Again, it's a long term good investment