Message from @Maksim
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I believe that if the investigation came to ultimately nothing or became a deadlock before the elections, it could definitely be used as leverage against the incumbent Democratic Party within the US government.
Specifically, Trump, and not just him, can use it as a catalyst to influence public opinion that the Democrats have led a four year-long investigation, with so much money, so much time, and so much effort, that has provided no proof nor any feasible results. It can most certainly be used as a political weapon for the upcoming elections.
@DrRisen I don't see the point in talking with you if you don't agree Biden and his son, along with all those involved are also criminally guilty and should be put behind bars
I do not know the specifics of the Ukraine situation, so this is a general hypothetical of mine on how things could potentially go.
@Maksim I don’t know. They could be. That said, you know I’m an innocent until proven guilty kind of guy. More to the point though, you asked if the action was impeachable, not if Biden did something highly illegal.
@Enkrum So you would in short agree it has the potential to be beneficial for Trump, yes?
Yes.
It all depends on how it’s framed by him.
To ask a foreign leader to Investigate a crime committed by an American in America using a foreign countries aid money?
For me, I couldn't really give a shit
I think pence would be better anyways
This one in particular.
Biden literally violated this but ok ignore that
I disagree it's a conflict of interest, because there is no evidence
All you are doing is drawing imaginary connections
No tangible proof
Zelensky himself denied quid pro quo
A conflict of interest isn’t evidence based, its context based. The presence of a motive so to speak.
Conflict of interest is evidence based in court
It is unreliable
It’s evidence at minimum to warrant an investigation into if the possibility of malpractice holds any water.
I don't really care about the investigation
And that is what impeachment would cause, an investigation into the matter.
I don't care if he gets impeached
I want to see Biden locked up
Pence would be better anyways
This here is the only thing I’m attempting to address.
If the bidens used US aid dollars and gave it to Ukranian banks to make them rich-while in office-that seems criminal
If you want to talk about motive, look at how pelosi said she wanted to inpeach Trump *and pence, that is motive
Because she would be next in line for the presidency
As per the line of succession
@Shalopy Biden gave foreign aid money to Ukraine, but he didnt, he gave it to the largest bank in Ukraine, owned by the same person who owned a oil and gas company which Bidens son was on the board of directors on even tho he has no experience with oil or gas
Has she said anything about Pence?
And does such an action violate FEC laws?
I haven't read FEC laws
I would assume so
Conflict of interest
"Foreign aid" as in govt expenditures for self-enrichment. Not sure if that would fall under FEC or not