Message from @Ater Votum

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2019-12-14 19:38:48 UTC  

Free Speech is a right. Rights are an end.

2019-12-14 19:39:04 UTC  

What makes rights an end

2019-12-14 19:39:09 UTC  

Even though you are right, you're still jewish so stfu @Attika

2019-12-14 19:39:24 UTC  
2019-12-14 21:15:32 UTC  

an sjw is someone who knows the rights of everyone and the responsibilities of no one

2019-12-14 21:23:25 UTC  

They've really ran out of sensible questions. Just make it question of the week, or month. You could also make it topical to get ideas, like this week ask a question about UK politics or the election more specifically.

2019-12-14 21:24:04 UTC  

Of course free speech isn't an end like wtf. A society in absolute hellish turmoil that has free speech isn't an end that anyone would want.

2019-12-14 22:48:41 UTC  

Is free speech really a right? How can we seperate "right" from what is virtuous? We ought to be able to choose to do what is right, but we should also burn books and kill pornographers, so like

2019-12-14 22:50:42 UTC  

At least that's an interesting question

2019-12-14 22:51:54 UTC  

kill pornographers?

2019-12-14 22:55:39 UTC  

Sex slaves

2019-12-14 22:57:07 UTC  

The answer is quite simple. Like a lot of things, it comes back to whether an Abrahamic God exists. I'm not well versed on the Bible or other such books - I've only read Genesis - but I've been told that porn is against Christianity. I've also heard people say that free speech in general isn't supported by Christianity and Islam. If I realised that an Abrahamic God exists, I would comb through the corresponding available texts and decipher what was and wasn't allowed. However, until then I shall continue to support free speech.

2019-12-14 22:57:39 UTC  

inb4 yes I know I need to read more of the Bible this has just reminded me, I will start again tonight.

2019-12-14 22:59:54 UTC  

I decided to stop for my health because I did actually read it for about a month but I was way too invested in it. I was going through it too slowly with too fine a comb and I was thinking about it all the time and I kept getting perplexed and I, no joke, got a couple bad headaches purely out of confusion at new verses.

2019-12-14 23:26:43 UTC  

If you have a brain then Christianity is against porn for everything about it is sinful @Mahojo2

2019-12-14 23:32:26 UTC  

^

2019-12-14 23:32:28 UTC  

that

2019-12-14 23:54:28 UTC  

And even if you don’t have a brain you can figure out porn is a negative for you by sheer logical thought if you aren’t addicted to it

2019-12-15 00:24:13 UTC  
2019-12-15 00:26:24 UTC  

@Mahojo2 I would recommend referencing church tradition and philosophers on it, "freedom" is good to the church but freedom meant something different pre-enlightenment that they coopted the term to get good optics.

2019-12-15 00:41:05 UTC  

@CaesarKonrad can u essplain why porn is bad

2019-12-15 01:17:00 UTC  

@Ater Votum well let’s see it is highly addictive this has been proven by scientific studies and it makes you seek it out rather than actual sex. People who regularly watch experience less sexual gratification and often develop deviant sexual taste because porn functions like a drug you need a more extreme dosage over time. A study on relationships found relationships where no partner watched porn did the best by looking at personal commentinment, negative communication, infidelity, and sexual gratification there were some others but those are the most important

2019-12-15 01:18:38 UTC  

how do you think you can cure it

2019-12-15 01:19:13 UTC  

You don’t watch porn

2019-12-15 01:20:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588205956039442452/655579786328014850/image0.jpg

2019-12-15 01:20:14 UTC  

so whats the first thing i do as a porn free person

2019-12-15 01:20:45 UTC  

i can draw and thats pretty much it

2019-12-15 01:21:39 UTC  

Everything else you do just not watching porn but I would say actually get out and try to get a girlfriend and build a family spend more time socializing and other things like that

2019-12-15 01:23:11 UTC  

already have a girlfriend

2019-12-15 01:23:24 UTC  

I also like how people say “animals masterbate” but other primates almost never do it when out the wild

2019-12-15 01:23:24 UTC  

i have female friends but theyre all shit

2019-12-15 01:23:58 UTC  

Then make new friends like I don’t why you need to ask what to do instead of porn that’s just up to you for what you want to do

2019-12-15 01:24:50 UTC  

But when j struggle with getting off of porn I found if I stayed inside / at my house I generally relapsed

2019-12-15 01:25:21 UTC  

i have friend

2019-12-15 01:25:22 UTC  

s

2019-12-15 01:25:56 UTC  

Then spend time with them

2019-12-15 01:25:59 UTC  

Lol

2019-12-15 01:26:41 UTC  

i do

2019-12-15 01:26:54 UTC  

Like I don’t how I am supposed to answer the question “what to do instead of porn” I spend my time lifting running reading and playing games

2019-12-15 01:27:25 UTC  

And you and me are different people so I can’t just say you this is what you must do in place of it

2019-12-15 03:05:20 UTC  

Free speech is intended to open more possibilities, there's no end goal of free speech. However it can reach a point of that if misused.