We arent equal, even if we say we are

furthermore, how do you know that nature = good

Nature was the first thing

like I said, that is fallacious

The start

like fucking spider females will eat the males after mating

should we do that too?

addie, things derived from humankind are inherently unnatural, therefore inherently untrue

Thats one small.part

ok maybe we need to take a step back, because I don't think we are on the same page

what do you mean by "natural"

the first accurate thing you have said

Any society built on lies and unnatural beliefs is bound to fail due to human **nature**

ah yes we will argue through deconstruction and feigning ignorance? @Riley

no, we are defining terms because that is very important

>when you need a definition of what is natural

if we both disagree on a definition of a term, then we won't get anywhere

I had a whole debate on the definition of "truth" with some Christian a while back

like even small things like that are important

so

You’re stoopid, we don’t follow just ‘nature’ because that coukd entail anything. We derive Truth from natural order. Not naturality in of itself.

how do you define "natural"

we are attempting to deconstruct information so that it is meaningless and i can create my own in its place, dont worrry we understand

like that

ok whats the "natural order"

like that is unbelievably ambiguous

Ok fem*id

LOL

it is the hierarchical system of truths that govern our reality

gottem

governs our reality?

Humans are the absolute top

system of truths?

Yes

Bacterium and Microorganisms are the bottom

They’re static

Unchanging

like your defining one ambiguous term with two more ambiguous terms

In terms of influence and power

Read lighting and the sun