Message from @Stahlgewittern

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2019-11-19 04:34:48 UTC  

I’m haven’t said “grrr, they should respect us” as that would be hypocritical of myself.

2019-11-19 04:35:36 UTC  

Crusades were justified but whatever

2019-11-19 04:36:01 UTC  

Christianity was attacked first

2019-11-19 04:37:11 UTC  

I only used the crusades as an example because it was the last era or event in which Christians directly persecuted another faith (aside from the inquisition)

2019-11-19 04:37:30 UTC  

inb4 Addie comes screeching in about muh what about turn the other cheek reeeee <:aaa:604871400825552906> <:aaa:604871400825552906> <:aaa:604871400825552906>

2019-11-19 04:37:44 UTC  

Though I do believe in the actions of both the inquisition and crusade

2019-11-19 04:38:43 UTC  

@Stahlgewittern Genuinely, what would you say in response to all the verses talking about not retaliating against your enemies

2019-11-19 04:39:26 UTC  

Christ himself did not come to did not come to bring peace but a sword

2019-11-19 04:39:44 UTC  

how gay are u to actually not fight back against an enemy

2019-11-19 04:40:13 UTC  

We strive to be Christlike

2019-11-19 04:40:26 UTC  

Even Christ was driven to violence

2019-11-19 04:40:28 UTC  

@Stahlgewittern That verse is taken way out of context ngl

2019-11-19 04:41:00 UTC  

Did Christ not fashion a whip and drive money changers from the temples?

2019-11-19 04:41:57 UTC  

Matthew 5:38-39 refers to personal offense

2019-11-19 04:42:09 UTC  

but we should not accept offense to God

2019-11-19 04:42:15 UTC  

When he talks about bringing a sword, reading the entire chapter clearly shows that he is taking about in that time when 1 Christian in a family would be outcast and he specifically mentioned brother vs brother and father vs son in reference to the fact that being Christian would see you be persecuted - and to not abandon your faith

2019-11-19 04:42:40 UTC  

Matthew 10:34-36

2019-11-19 04:42:43 UTC  

I’m aware

2019-11-19 04:43:45 UTC  

I do not clearly remember where in the Bible is speaks of it unfortunately, but there was an instance where a man talked ill of Jesus and oke of the apostles cut the man's ear for it but Jesus rebuked the apostle for it

2019-11-19 04:44:37 UTC  

I don't have that specific instance bookmarked so I don't remember where it talked about it

2019-11-19 04:45:24 UTC  

That was during the arrest of Jesus

2019-11-19 04:45:59 UTC  

John 18:10-11

2019-11-19 04:46:00 UTC  

2019-11-19 04:46:14 UTC  

Ah

2019-11-19 04:46:15 UTC  

Thanks

2019-11-19 04:46:44 UTC  

I do believe in defense of the Lord by less peaceful means just making that clear tho

2019-11-19 04:46:49 UTC  

I'm not a pacifist

2019-11-19 04:47:11 UTC  

I believe we have been pacifists for too long

2019-11-19 04:47:42 UTC  

I think we should forgive and help those in need who are willing to receive help

2019-11-19 04:48:15 UTC  

If they truly want help

2019-11-19 04:49:02 UTC  

We allow offense to God too often

2019-11-19 04:49:16 UTC  

I'm not talking about forgiving offense to God

2019-11-19 04:49:32 UTC  

There is no morality in Christian World anymore

2019-11-19 04:49:43 UTC  

People have forgotten God

2019-11-19 04:49:45 UTC  

For the most part, yes

2019-11-19 04:49:57 UTC  

and care not for help

2019-11-19 04:50:40 UTC  

I would even go as far as to say many recognize God, but sin out of nothing but hatred.

2019-11-19 04:51:08 UTC  

How would we go about fixing this?

2019-11-19 04:51:14 UTC  

Or is this a mark of the end times?

2019-11-19 04:51:42 UTC  

I believe our faith should never just give up

2019-11-19 04:51:51 UTC  

We are overdue for a cleansing of sin on a global scale