Message from @Asdrubal

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2019-11-28 01:48:09 UTC  

It doesn't reduce their power whatsoever as they could still have ultimate temporal power. In addition if the religion is state mandated usually the executive is viewed as god's servant or something

2019-11-28 01:48:43 UTC  

if the religion is its own entity then the sovereign remains the de facto ruler

2019-11-28 01:48:58 UTC  

Or operating "under the grace of" said de facto ruler

2019-11-28 01:49:10 UTC  

Ideally the sovereign should be the head of a cult within said pantheistic faith

2019-11-28 01:49:28 UTC  

and beyond that, a myriad of other gods/goddesses should exist to ensure continuity from one ruler to the next

2019-11-28 01:49:33 UTC  

Serving as a unifying force

2019-11-28 01:49:47 UTC  

Further, a pantheistic faith enables other pantheists to more effectively integrate if they desire to

2019-11-28 01:51:59 UTC  

I reckon there's other ways to promote national unity than forcing people into a cult but go off

2019-11-28 01:53:40 UTC  

Well sure, but it's another strengthening factor

2019-11-28 01:53:52 UTC  

and I don't mean cult in terms of the modern sense

2019-11-28 01:53:56 UTC  

but rather, a traditional sense

2019-11-28 01:54:21 UTC  

Think pharaohs, or the imperial cult of rome

2019-11-28 02:52:50 UTC  

The church in government will result in conflict between the secularist and church

2019-11-28 03:02:11 UTC  

Secularism can't quite be unifying or used as a tool of a state

2019-11-28 03:02:18 UTC  

It's a restricting, and imposes limits

2019-11-28 03:02:33 UTC  

Likewise, it'll result in conflict between the religious and the state in many cases

2019-11-28 03:02:53 UTC  

Do keep in mind I'm not advocating for civil liberties to be taken away on religious grounds

2019-11-28 03:03:19 UTC  

Agnosticism, atheism, and any religion should be allowed

2019-11-28 03:03:27 UTC  

But a greater emphasis upon the state's pantheon

2019-11-28 03:03:40 UTC  

Likewise, this pantheon shouldn't be discriminatory, but generally unifying

2019-11-28 03:20:36 UTC  

The state can't be used as a symbol or tool for unification if the church exists in the totalitarian dystopias everyone in this server wants

2019-11-28 03:26:54 UTC  

Bible literally says you cant worship money and god

2019-11-28 03:27:22 UTC  

This indirectly implies that you cant worship the state and god

2019-11-28 03:35:21 UTC  

Right, but I don't really care about the bible?

2019-11-28 03:35:32 UTC  

Also, I'd want the state and church to be linked

2019-11-28 03:35:46 UTC  

I don't want a totalist dystopia, in fact, the religion should be lenient

2019-11-28 03:41:34 UTC  

I'm not referring to you specifically

2019-11-28 03:41:41 UTC  

We havent talked much

2019-11-28 03:42:12 UTC  

I'm talking about the broader spectrum of authoritarian fags

2019-11-28 03:51:47 UTC  

Fair

2019-11-28 03:51:55 UTC  

I'm sure I disagree with them on plenty of fronts

2019-11-28 05:07:16 UTC  

To be fair though

2019-11-28 05:07:28 UTC  

You kind of sound like one of those kids @Light

2019-11-28 05:19:15 UTC  

Howso?

2019-11-28 05:35:18 UTC  
2019-11-28 06:25:20 UTC  

Edgy 14 year olds

2019-11-28 06:27:29 UTC  

Atheist / has a butterfly knife / "Hitler was a socialist" / Lolbertarian / Monster snapback / #darkhumorandmemes #filthyfrank #911 #schoolshooter #cancer

2019-11-28 06:28:11 UTC  

Lolbertarianism is the same as anarchism

2019-11-28 06:28:29 UTC  

The rich will rule everyone and crime will be everywhere

2019-11-28 10:08:26 UTC  

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2019-11-28 13:14:28 UTC  

@Gromp jews are the rich dufus