Message from @el pebble

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2019-08-04 20:40:26 UTC  

just because happiness is ''pseudopsychological'' does not render it invalid

2019-08-04 20:40:40 UTC  

the hedonic treadmill is pseudopsychological

2019-08-04 20:40:43 UTC  

not happiness

2019-08-04 20:41:30 UTC  

still
vagueness does not mean that it is invalid

2019-08-04 20:42:24 UTC  

the conflicting nature of finding benefit through different inhibitions and levels of chemicals that could be altered at anyone's wish anyway is just that

2019-08-04 20:42:26 UTC  

conflicting

2019-08-04 20:42:45 UTC  

the hedonic treadmill is pointless

2019-08-04 20:43:01 UTC  

dimensionalizing something arbitrary

2019-08-04 20:43:21 UTC  

how is it pointless?

2019-08-04 20:44:28 UTC  

it is applying dimensions to the specific fluctuation of chemicals of a person that is ever changing in its desire for certain stimuli

2019-08-04 20:45:00 UTC  

it is pointless to use this idea to determine benefit

2019-08-04 20:45:08 UTC  

why should benefit be about elevating above a baseline permanently

2019-08-04 20:45:13 UTC  

so that is your view of happiness
simply desiring stimuli

2019-08-04 20:45:27 UTC  

happiness is no more than a fluctuation of chemicals from stimuli

2019-08-04 20:46:20 UTC  

so you do not believe that there is a cognitive or immaterial part of the mind?

2019-08-04 20:46:39 UTC  

i do not believe in the immaterial

2019-08-04 20:47:36 UTC  

so you believe that your exact personality could be uploaded into a cyborg based purely on your brain chemistry and structure

2019-08-04 20:47:49 UTC  

yes

2019-08-04 20:47:52 UTC  

we could look at identical twins

2019-08-04 20:48:04 UTC  

i am a firm believer substrate-independent existence is possible and inevitable

2019-08-04 20:48:43 UTC  

identical twins do not share the same brain

2019-08-04 20:48:55 UTC  

so you dont want people to have experiences that play a role in the formation in personality

2019-08-04 20:49:06 UTC  

youre being silly now

2019-08-04 20:49:10 UTC  

no

2019-08-04 20:49:34 UTC  

the neuroticism of this discussion is making it unrealistic

2019-08-04 20:49:52 UTC  

not really
what is neurotic about this

2019-08-04 20:51:01 UTC  

the preying on the cynical of an idea that has the capacity to expand everything youre concerned about

2019-08-04 20:51:34 UTC  

preying on the cynical of an idea?
english please

2019-08-04 20:51:45 UTC  

what is the cynical of an idea

2019-08-04 20:52:19 UTC  

im not interested in talking to you anymore

2019-08-04 20:52:30 UTC  

there is a certain threshold of intelligence i can suffer

2019-08-04 20:52:35 UTC  

wahh wahh why wont they debate me

2019-08-04 20:52:52 UTC  

oh not you youre too dumb

2019-08-04 20:53:05 UTC  

There are no objections to transhumanism without religion

2019-08-04 20:53:40 UTC  

this

2019-08-04 20:53:54 UTC  

the only response to transhumanism is from an idolatry standpoint

2019-08-04 20:53:55 UTC  

i am simply asking questions that lay bare the absurdity of transhumanist propositions
i did not cite religion once

2019-08-04 20:54:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/607677681877647392/IMG_20190804_134647.jpg

2019-08-04 20:54:10 UTC  

<:smug:591181720565579807>

2019-08-04 20:55:01 UTC  

thats pretty warm

2019-08-04 20:55:46 UTC  

Nice and cozy