how old do you think the universe is?

Besides, how do you explain such things as information theory, where we have information coded within our DNA? @Riley

From everything we understand about information, it is impossible for this to originate without Mind.

wait answer my question first

how old do you think the universe is

No, because you are trying to build a strawman argument, even though I have not outwardly declared myself a creationist.

im not making an argument

im asking a question

I simply said that creationism is not how you perceive it. It's not a bunch of atheists and Protestants debating whether the world is 6000 years old.

It refers to the origin of man, which is 'creation ex nihilo'.

ok i got that

i already know

That is what makes Christianity distinct from say Platonism/Hinduism.

As Hinduism believes that the world is formed out of pre-existing matter.

can you demonstrate that a God created the universe or man?

Hence the doctrine of reincarnation of the transmigration of souls.

How can man create the universe?

man didn't

Man is a finite, fallible being. I think that makes it potently obvious that man is a created being, and everything that has a beginning, must have an end.

ok prove it

Prove what?

that man was created by a God lmfao

That everything that has a beginning must have an end?

Do you believe in higher degrees of reality?

Do you believe in essences/ideals?

what do you mean by higher degrees of reality

4 dimensions, 5th dimensions etc..

well thats what string theory predicts

though it hasnt really been confirmed yet

as far as i know

Phhh, you cannot escape speculative theories, can you?

Do numbers exist?

thats not very relevant lmao

It is relevant.

Because this is outside of the material realm.

numbers simply quantify the material realm

This is to presuppose that there is a world outside of our own, a more 'real' world I suppose.

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But they are not. Numbers are universal. They exist independent of your mind's perception.

There is an objective reality.

uhh ok?