Message from @Alric the Bretwalda

Discord ID: 611319870059184136


2019-08-14 22:01:01 UTC  

im not making an argument

2019-08-14 22:01:02 UTC  

im asking a question

2019-08-14 22:01:16 UTC  

I simply said that creationism is not how you perceive it. It's not a bunch of atheists and Protestants debating whether the world is 6000 years old.

2019-08-14 22:01:27 UTC  

It refers to the origin of man, which is 'creation ex nihilo'.

2019-08-14 22:01:32 UTC  

ok i got that

2019-08-14 22:01:37 UTC  

i already know

2019-08-14 22:01:40 UTC  

That is what makes Christianity distinct from say Platonism/Hinduism.

2019-08-14 22:01:55 UTC  

As Hinduism believes that the world is formed out of pre-existing matter.

2019-08-14 22:02:14 UTC  

can you demonstrate that a God created the universe or man?

2019-08-14 22:02:33 UTC  

Hence the doctrine of reincarnation of the transmigration of souls.

2019-08-14 22:02:51 UTC  

How can man create the universe?

2019-08-14 22:03:10 UTC  

man didn't

2019-08-14 22:03:16 UTC  

Man is a finite, fallible being. I think that makes it potently obvious that man is a created being, and everything that has a beginning, must have an end.

2019-08-14 22:03:26 UTC  

ok prove it

2019-08-14 22:03:34 UTC  

Prove what?

2019-08-14 22:03:41 UTC  

that man was created by a God lmfao

2019-08-14 22:03:41 UTC  

That everything that has a beginning must have an end?

2019-08-14 22:06:13 UTC  

Do you believe in higher degrees of reality?

2019-08-14 22:06:26 UTC  

Do you believe in essences/ideals?

2019-08-14 22:06:37 UTC  

what do you mean by higher degrees of reality

2019-08-14 22:06:54 UTC  

4 dimensions, 5th dimensions etc..

2019-08-14 22:07:05 UTC  

well thats what string theory predicts

2019-08-14 22:07:10 UTC  

though it hasnt really been confirmed yet

2019-08-14 22:07:12 UTC  

as far as i know

2019-08-14 22:07:23 UTC  

Phhh, you cannot escape speculative theories, can you?

2019-08-14 22:07:25 UTC  

Do numbers exist?

2019-08-14 22:07:48 UTC  

thats not very relevant lmao

2019-08-14 22:07:57 UTC  

It is relevant.

2019-08-14 22:08:10 UTC  

Because this is outside of the material realm.

2019-08-14 22:08:21 UTC  

numbers simply quantify the material realm

2019-08-14 22:08:44 UTC  

This is to presuppose that there is a world outside of our own, a more 'real' world I suppose.

2019-08-14 22:08:58 UTC  

.

2019-08-14 22:09:11 UTC  

But they are not. Numbers are universal. They exist independent of your mind's perception.

2019-08-14 22:09:15 UTC  

There is an objective reality.

2019-08-14 22:09:25 UTC  

uhh ok?

2019-08-14 22:10:24 UTC  

I believe in a celestial hierarchy, and the existence of the supreme Being/the one, manifested as pure Being, whose essence is that of pure truth, pure beauty, etc ...

2019-08-14 22:10:36 UTC  

ok can you prove it

2019-08-14 22:10:38 UTC  

<:garfilf:606968189640769668>

2019-08-14 22:10:53 UTC  

I can and I have.

2019-08-14 22:11:00 UTC  

And I could continue to do so.

2019-08-14 22:11:07 UTC  

no, no you havnet